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Zekkyou said:
Dv8thwonder said:
Zekkyou said:

They definitely need to start targeting a larger audience. Right now they seem to make nothing other than family friendly games. Of course being family friendly has nothing to do with the quality of an individual game, but locking yourself into it does greatly reduce the diversity of the games you can make.

A lot of Sony's success came from their ability to produce games for both the family and the "mature" gamers (e.g. LBP and The Last of Us).


You make a point to say Nintendo should broaden their horizons yet you ignore the fact that a "family" approach is that wider audience. Sony's success or lackthereof (depends on who you ask) in the console market has come from the niche audience. I mean seriously if there were more of them wouldn't their numbers have dwarfed the so called "casuals" last generation?

Little Big Planet and The Last of Us?

One isn't a family title by any stretch of the imagination and secondly, I'm not sure you know what the word mature means.

You seem to have completely miss understood my comment ^^;

"Of course being family friendly has nothing to do with the quality of an individual game, but locking yourself into it does greatly reduce the diversity of the games you can make."

I've bolded the first part you seem to have missed. I am talking about the diversity of their line up, not specific age groups. Of course family friendly games have a larger general appeal, but if that's all you make then you lose a lot of the variety many gamers want. Sometimes I want to play Mario, or Pokemon, other days I want my mind blown away by storytelling. Other days I just want to blow shit up :p Nintendo's 1st party line up is heavily lacking in that diversity. That pretty much locks them out from any gamers who prefer a more general gaming experience (which is an awful lot of people, look at the 160 million sales of the HD twins).

Aaaah, yeah it must be that “niche” appeal that led to Sony selling twice as many home console units over the last three generations than Nintendo ^^ The “niche” audience also seems to be considerably more sustainable, seeing as the PS3 has been outselling the Wii for years. That Niche market is also spread across 160 million gamers on the PS3 and 360 :p and are currently the ones kicking the WiiU’s ass.

Other than the PS3’s financials, I’d say Sony have been the very definition of successful.

My example of LBP and TLOU was showing Sony make high quality games for both the family and the “mature” audiences. And I know exactly what mature means :P You will notice I use quotation marks around my every use of mature, family and casual. I did so to imply I was using the word loosely, rather than actually segregating the audiences.


Family being a wider ranged audience is all inclusive. There is no segregation of audiences here. The broken marketing terms casual and hardrcore which have been widely adopted by people who play games and media alike is where the segregation lies and where the seclusion begins...

How is Nintendo's 1st party software lacking in diversity compared to what exactly?

I hope you are only using Sony's games as a metric and not combining that with 3rd party software, which happens to be the primary reason to purchase of a "Nontendo" platform. I am 100% sure if roles were reversed in the 5th, 6th, 7th and now 8th gen you would not be so confident in Sony's ability to sell a console. I will go a bit further and say had not the cost of entry been so high to be a "PC gamer" the need for a Sony or Microsoft console would be even more redundant than it is now.

 HD twins is not a combined platform nor will it ever be. Stop trying to make this a thing. It's not gonna happen!

79% chance of bankruptcy

"Mature" games or gamers for that matter. I feel silly just typing that.



Things that need to die in 2016: Defeatist attitudes of Nintendo fans