fair enough, i do agree that Assault was in the right direction but it had problems that you already stated. IMHO i think Adventures did alot of damage to the series. they marketed as the next Star Fox, if anything Assault should have been first then Adventures.

Rare was making a new IP, Dinosaur Planet, using the Zelda engine, not a Star Fox game. Miyamoto decided that Rare would use Fox as the main character, because the original character Rare had created was also a fox... The idea to use the Star Fox brand was purely a marketing one.

Maybe they should inspire it off Star Wars, I mean the name is already much the same. A big 'Knights of the Old Republic-style' Star Fox with some more SF64-like space battles in between, would be awesome. I agree they should just take some risks with the franchise. It's not like sales can go much lower than the newest entries and the series skipped a gen so there's opportunity to re-brand it.

Though I'd buy anything that's somehow similar to SF64 personally.

SF64 is another time period. Games like that where considered mastrpieces. Goldeneye was considered a revolution to the FPS genre but truth be told both have aged badly. This will not appeal to the new masses out there with games like Uncharted, Last of US, Halo, Bioshock all stepping up to a new level of game interaction.  I cannot see an onrails working especially when a shitload of us complained when Wii was getting a lot of onrail games and how outdated onls is.

Just because it is star fox doesn't mean all those argument are no longer valid. Or were they just more excuses fro people not to buy 3rd party games?

2 hours is also a joke for $60. Couple million sales is aiming too low, they should be aiming higher. If brand new IPs liek uncharted can grow year on year then Star Fox may have the potential to become a big series. No one knows unless they try. Atm the longer they wait the less significant the franchise will become if it isn't too late already.

Worked for me.

With the exception of halo and probably uncharted if we stretch it none of the games you mentioned there I would consider appealing to the masses, hell most of those games were outsold by DKCR a game from that time period. But I would agree that an on rails shooter for 60 bucks well be a hard sell.

But there is an easy fix for that all nintendo has to do is add online multiplayer to the battle mode and problem solved. I keep staring at the star fox 64 I have for my 3ds and while the main game is still as much fun as playing it back all those years ago (as hard as that might be to believe for some people) it really irks me that nintendo did not add online to battlemode its so much fun I thought it would have been a given.

For the wiiU all they need to do is beef up the battlemode a little more,  make it something battlefield like, the different animals could have different specialities like engineering, medic and so on, and you can use the spaceships and land cruiser and so on in large mulitplayer maps. All this while keeping the on rails part for single player with a little on foot thrown in, win win for everyone.

But I wouldn't hold my breath on nintendo bringing back star fox though.

You should speak for yourself. Sales showed that people actually like those games. Hell House of the Dead 2/3 sold more than 2 mil, and those were ports. that damn nerf game sold 1 mil. The thing is Ninty has to price it accordinly nobody is going to want to pay 60 bucks for that kind of game, but they will pay 30 maybe 40. They should take a page of out Sony and just about every other publishers book, stop playing around and embrace online. There is nothing wrong with this game being budgeted and put on the Wii U eshop or hell just put it on 3ds which is cheaper anyway.

I haven't played any of the games that came after Star Fox 64, but from what I've heard, ever since then the series started putting more and more emphasis on story and interpersonal relationships between the members of Star Fox (to the point that Command was almost like a bloody soap opera), and less on shooting aliens and space monkey faces. That shit obviously needs to change.

As for how to make it more than a run-of-the-mill rail shooter, I think they should take a cue from Star Fox 2.

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For those of you not in the know, Star Fox 2 operates very differently from the original and Star Fox 64. The game runs in semi-real time, so the game remains paused when you're not doing anything, but when you move or perform any action, the clock starts ticking and all the enemies begin moving (kind of like in Mount & Blade, if that helps anyone at all). The primary objective is to liberate the planets in the Lylat System while simultaneously preventing intercepting missiles and enemy battleships before they can reach Corneria. During enemy encounters and planet missions, the clock slows down, but doesn't stop, so if you plan it poorly or just fuck up, you might have to interrupt the mission in order to intercept an enemy. To keep flying around the map from becoming tedious and to actually make the rest of the Star Fox team do something useful, you can control multiple characters, each with their own statistics and unique starfighters. (So Falco could have improved maneuverability, Peppy could have advanced barrel roll and bomb-using techniques, and I guess Slippy could be like a joke character since nobody would want to play as Slippy anyway)

To add further replay value, the enemy movements and spawn locations could be randomized, liberated planets could be recaptured by the enemy if left unchecked for too long, and if you were to ignore a planet for too long, that part could become infested with enemies, and become harder to complete. Sort of like the Panic mechanic in XCOM: Enemy Unknown.

It would give you an idea of a much larger conflict than a standard linear rail shooter would, so you'd really feel like you're defending an entire solar system. Don't tell me that wouldn't be amazing, you lying fuck, you.

Sorry, but I'm damn glad Nintendo doesn't think that way. Turning the Star Fox universe from a unique "Aniverse" of talking animal people, into a bland, generic  sci-fi universe akin to Mass Effect, and making it "dark, gritty and hardcore", is one of the single worst ideas I've ever heard presented in my long history with gaming......

Sorry, but Assualt was just dog-shit awful. End of story. I was SO stoked for that game to come out, and it wound up being the single biggest gaming disappointment of my entire life. Fuck that game, in all seriousness.

No "get out and walk around" missions, thanks. Every OTHER action game on the planet does that. Star Fox being Star Fox, ala 64, is what makes the series unique, and that is how it should play. You want to expand on that in interesting ways? Awesome. But if it ain't broke, don't fuckin' fix it. And certainly don't let Namco develop it..........(or Team Ninja).