Not surprising.. they couldn't get it together fast enough..

LG beat them and are starting to selling their OLED Panels to the Chinese TV manufacturers.. LG somehow found what Sony and Panasonic couldn't find to lower the price and mass produce it for other TV manufacturers

Yeah it would be consumer ready if it was 4 X 42 inch plasmas ducktaped together. Cnet did a nice piece about how the next big thing is kicking out the last best thing...

http://cnettv.cnet.com/end-plasma-tvs/9742-1_53-50160839.html

If Sony and Panasonic's venture worked out then they would be able to make OLED more affordable on the market correct? That is what i meant by "better tech". I wasnt "chiding" you about anything. You make it seem like my point of view was that OLED is some new thing that hasnt been done...which i never said once. You just assumed that.

Your whole argument is also based on the assumption that Samsung/LG (who are actually doing okay in televion and as a whole) isnt investing in reducing their manufacturing costs. Something which you have no proof of. Its only logical to assume that all the major players would invest in reducing costs...not just Sony and Panasonic. I mean seriously? all those smart words and long paragraphs and you didnt think of that? Youactually thought the opposite.

"You postulate that Sammy and LG will go out of their way to develop new technology for a market they already dominate"

That is almost exactly what i postulate. And its a better postulation that yours The only part i disagree with is the "go out of their way" part which just doesnt make sense. I would imagine it would be apart of their normal processes.

Besides all that though even if this worked out for Sony it still doesnt solve their television issues and that was really the crux of my point. Simply having a tech advantage (ie. cheaper OLED TV's) doesnt solve Sony's problems. And that's why i disagreed with your original comment:

"Had they developed the tech required for mass-production things would have been a lot easier for both companies."

Not sure why you reacted so agressive to my post perhaps it was because i mentioned "Sony failed" in a very blunt way. I dunno. None of my posts was looking for some sort of argument i was simply giving my opinion which you somehow already marked as "completely wrong".

And yes prof you are a pretty well known bias poster around here. Not sure what you want me to say about that...

ill respond more later, but ill just remark that the very idea that you think I posted because you said "sony failed" is the essence.of your postin general. no thought or knowledge.involved and clearly didnt read my last paragraph. I was the one saying sony failed and this is a big deal. you are the.one saying its no big deal.
your grasp on this debate is astonishing. you dont even know what you wrote.

Amazing how far lucky goldstar has come since the 90s when i had a tv that I thought was being turned on by a ghost lol.

Shame the venture failed would be nice for some competition to LG.

Thats not what i said. I questioned why you responded the way you did not why you responded at all theres a big difference. It was out of context:

"*sigh* the only thing you're right about is that it doesn't matter. Everything else, completely wrong.

Look, you like Sony. You're a friend to me. Don't make me take off the gloves. :P"

It was unnecessary i mean we had hardly said anything in the thread.

And seriously the essence of my posting? This must be your first time even reading any of posts.

And yes I dont think its a big deal. That doesnt mean i dont think its a failure. Would it help? Sure. But it doesnt solve everything for them with regards to television. Granted you might not have meant that when you said "make things a lot easier".

Dont even bother replying, if thats your opinion of me as a poster then why worry. I know i wouldnt.

I wonder if Sony will ever realize that the TV division is not worth bleeding all that money for.

shinobi, you clearly said twice that I was biased and defending sony against your so.called attack. dont even try to.wiggle out of it.

we'll solve this right here. you mentioned that I posted because you said sony failed. then you said my bias was.in thr.way.

using evidence from this.thread, show how:
1. I was defending sony
2. that you said they failed

you cant. do you agree that neither of those happened?
good because they.didnt. this is why I said you arent reading. instead of getting defensive.and calling me biased which is moderable fyi, simply show.me where this happened. thats what any regular.poster.would.do instead of making blind accusations.

I said you were bias, I didnt say you were defending my attack against Sony. The bias was in relation to you "taking your gloves off" getting ready to "fight". Id fight a bias person anyday of the week. That was me saying bring it on.

You gave me a nice little tongue in cheeck warning in this post:

"Look, you like Sony. You're a friend to me. Don't make me take off the gloves. :P"

I returned the favour:

"Go ahead take your gloves off. I always beat bias people. Its the ones who call things the way they see it that i dont mess around with on here "

This litle banter was seperate from the discussion at hand. I mean theres smileys and everything.

Anyways seems like you are more upset that i called you biased than anything else. Must have hit a nerve. Do what you want, report me etc.

Prof just to be clear non of my posts prior to your jab at me being a Sony guy had anything to do with you as a poster or your bias. All my comments were fully on topic. Whether what i was saying was right or wrong is what we were discussing.

The bias comment was a direct reply to your unnecessary, sarcastic post which came from no where really. Comments like these: "*sigh*" , "only thing your right about", "Your A Sony guy. We're friends", "don't let me take them gloves off" etc.

Don't get me wrong i don't mind the banter...which is why i replied the way i did. I wont shy away from a fight. Hell i didn't even mind the insults you implied in that post or the insults in the following posts. And i sure as hell didn't report you. But now that we get into it you are saying stuff like "that's moderable" completely ignoring all things you said that were moderable. At least when you start a fight have the balls to end before you go crying to mods.