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TheSource said:

This is a pretty weak holiday for consoles globally - trending below 2007-2012 even excluding PS2.

Dec 15 2007 - 1.78m consoles sold (more with PS2 - probably 2.2m)

Dec 13 2008 - 2.45m consoles sold (more with PS2 - probably 2.7m)

Dec 12 2009 - 2.65m consoles sold

Dec 11 2010 - 2.68m consoles sold

Dec 17 2011 - 2.63m consoles sold

Dec 15 2012 - 1.98m consoles sold

Dec 14 2013 - 1.68m consoles sold

C'mon source, why would you not include 2006 numbers?

Those numbers were 1.18m not including ps2. And frankly, using vgc numbers during xmas...you should know better than that.
I used to always defend you and your numbers, but this time you are clearly manipulating the data to show what you want to show.

2006 was launch, not 2007. You're comparing years unfairly, without including things such as shipments, hell ps4 and xb1 aren't even globally released yet....it's just a bad comparison all around. Shame on you source.



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theprof00 said:
TheSource said:

This is a pretty weak holiday for consoles globally - trending below 2007-2012 even excluding PS2.

Dec 15 2007 - 1.78m consoles sold (more with PS2 - probably 2.2m)

Dec 13 2008 - 2.45m consoles sold (more with PS2 - probably 2.7m)

Dec 12 2009 - 2.65m consoles sold

Dec 11 2010 - 2.68m consoles sold

Dec 17 2011 - 2.63m consoles sold

Dec 15 2012 - 1.98m consoles sold

Dec 14 2013 - 1.68m consoles sold

C'mon source, why would you not include 2006 numbers?

Those numbers were 1.18m not including ps2. And frankly, using vgc numbers during xmas...you should know better than that.
I used to always defend you and your numbers, but this time you are clearly manipulating the data to show what you want to show.

2006 was launch, not 2007. You're comparing years unfairly, without including things such as shipments, hell ps4 and xb1 aren't even globally released yet....it's just a bad comparison all around. Shame on you source.

Outed.

I'm concerned we'll be seeing more of this type of selective data use with people on here trying to make a biased argument, but all they're really doing is damaging their legitimacy when someone calls them out.

VGC definitely needs BS Police.



Porcupine_I said:
There is some truth to this, after all the PS4 is outsold by the Wii U in japan every week since launch.

Even the Xbox360 outsells the PS4 and XBO every week in Japan. That's bad!



I think after the holidays adjustment the sales will look more impressive + neither the ps4 or the X1 are out in japan lol remove the 70k from the wii u coming from japan and the gap is a lot biger



Bet reminder: I bet with Tboned51 that Splatoon won't reach the 1 million shipped mark by the end of 2015. I win if he loses and I lose if I lost.

I didn't use 2006 because I don't remember how well PS2 was doing globally (and 2005 and before you'd have to use GC & XBOX too). The numbers even without PS2 are still weak - PS2 was probably doing 200,000 a week at least in late 2006 and 2007.



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d21lewis said:


What is about with all them "sells" showing up when people talk about hardware sales? Is it a new trend?



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d21lewis said:

 

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TheSource said:

I didn't use 2006 because I don't remember how well PS2 was doing globally (and 2005 and before you'd have to use GC & XBOX too). The numbers even without PS2 are still weak - PS2 was probably doing 200,000 a week at least in late 2006 and 2007.

Even with adjustments, it should be problematic for anyone that, with the two biggest launches in history, we do not see higher figures when compared to history.

What do you think the explanation is for the numbers not being higher? Mostly supply or that everything is becoming more frontloaded (I blame IPhone for the frontloaded mentality :)).



TheSource said:

This is a pretty weak holiday for consoles globally - trending below 2007-2012 even excluding PS2.

Dec 15 2007 - 1.78m consoles sold (more with PS2 - probably 2.2m)

Dec 13 2008 - 2.45m consoles sold (more with PS2 - probably 2.7m)

Dec 12 2009 - 2.65m consoles sold

Dec 11 2010 - 2.68m consoles sold

Dec 17 2011 - 2.63m consoles sold

Dec 15 2012 - 1.98m consoles sold

Dec 14 2013 - 1.68m consoles sold

Yahh but move PS4 relase a week later and you got 1million plus and highest selling stat of all of them, what if u do nov/dec sales.

Much of it has to do with lack of stock for the two most wanted consoles of that month.



PS2 and GC likely added about 300k in 2006 going by NPD for this week - not great.



People are difficult to govern because they have too much knowledge.

When there are more laws, there are more criminals.

- Lao Tzu