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I didnt buy a wii for anything you listed, I bought one bc of the sports games and motion controls and it was fun with those when i had company over. Also I didnt care for games that were not nintendo games on the wii, never had the polish and good feel as them. the Wiiu will be just for the nintendo games as well, but no gimmick to make it a must have.



 

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Zero999 said:

invisible technical standpoint. are you blind? he said "superior consoles" and there is no such thing. the general audience couldn't care less about wich console has somewhat stronger specs.

Am I blind? Are you kidding me? Listen, the Wii U is inferior to the PS4/X1 from a technological standpoint, that is a simple fact, if that matters to the masses is nothing I even addressed. But sure since you bring it up why not talk about it? It is absolutely hysterical that you act as if you have any idea about what the general audience wants, mister "the Wii U will have sold 22mil console, by the end of 2014", you have no grasp of the situation the Wii U is in at all. And you know what? Power matters, If it didn't we wouldn't be getting new consoles.

Is power the only thing that matters? No.

Is it the most important thing about a console? No.

But in this generation it is one serious disadvantage the Wii U has. Because Nintendo tried repeating the Wii success, they ignored power and instead wanted to make the tablet the next big gaming revolution, but they failed and are now left with an underpowered console with a tablet controller, that the general masses are not interested in, driving its price up. So combine this significant (you can deny that as much you want) power difference, with the comparably small extra price you have to pay (especially for PS4), the prospect of way larger gaming libraries (I mean just look at how many games are announced for PS4 vs. Wii U ) and the generally alot better image among gamers of the Playstation and Xbox brand (after all they are not "casual/kiddy consoles") and it's not hard to see why the general masses perceive the PS4/X1 as superior products compared to the Wii U.



i agree.
If u see that wii version of just dance 2014 is outselling all wii U games, than u have a point.
Skylanders, dysney infinity are going better on wii.

I bet if they hadnt abandoned the wii, it would still go very good in sales...



Licence said:

I think you have a good point. The thing I loved about the Wii was the motion controls. It was a bit crappy before the Motion Plus, but after that it fixed most of the issues. I though that games that supported the Motion Plus are all really good (Tiger Woods golf, Wii Sports Resort, Skyward Sword, Conduit 2, Red Steele 2).

With the WiiU, the motion plus is now a given. They now really can produce the type of games that the Wii initially promised ... but then they went with the gamepad. Now, don't get me wrong, I really like the gamepad in "core" games like AC and ZombiU, but I have a feeling that most Wii owners are looking for those wild swingin' days with the wiimote.

And where is the golf game for the WiiU? Tiger Woods was one of the best selling games on the Wii, outselling its PS360 piers in spite of being graphically inferior. There are hundreds of thousands of corporate workers looking for a way to make golf in their living room a reality - why is no one tapping this market?

EA owns the license to Tiger woods, and PGA golf EA isnt producing for Ninty. simple



Your dead wrong for the most part but I'm not surprised because most people on game forums don't know what sells. I'm especially surprised that a game sales forum such as this itself is contained with alot of people who don't know the mechanics of how a game will sell.



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enditall727 said:
spurgeonryan said:
I agree with D21's second post.

A lot of people were tricked by the Wii.

I would also like to say to the OP that the Wii mote sucked! I am glad it is not the focal point anymore.


I didn't know that you didn't like the Wii Mote. ..sucks to hear that but the Wii Mote still brought excitement to Nintendo and pretty much helped Nintendo sculpt a market where their games and some other 3rd party games coud thrive.

 

If the Nintendo did bring back the Wii Mote, you would still be able to get a GamePad or Pro controller

 

Everybody could be happy then

heres the thing, you can have excitment, but when that excitment wears off when you realize the tech you have actually sucks and you feel tricked, then thats not good and IMHO thats what kept the WIi from going as far as it could have gone, it was on track to at least match PS2's numbers. Sure they brought out motion+ adn that was much better, but it came later and even Ninty barely supported it, hell Sony supported Move more. it doesnt send a good image to your userbase.



DerNebel said:
Zero999 said:

invisible technical standpoint. are you blind? he said "superior consoles" and there is no such thing. the general audience couldn't care less about wich console has somewhat stronger specs.

Am I blind? Are you kidding me? Listen, the Wii U is inferior to the PS4/X1 from a technological standpoint, that is a simple fact, if that matters to the masses is nothing I even addressed. But sure since you bring it up why not talk about it? It is absolutely hysterical that you act as if you have any idea about what the general audience wants, mister "the Wii U will have sold 22mil console, by the end of 2014", you have no grasp of the situation the Wii U is in at all. And you know what? Power matters, If it didn't we wouldn't be getting new consoles.

Is power the only thing that matters? No.

Is it the most important thing about a console? No.

But in this generation it is one serious disadvantage the Wii U has. Because Nintendo tried repeating the Wii success, they ignored power and instead wanted to make the tablet the next big gaming revolution, but they failed and are now left with an underpowered console with a tablet controller, that the general masses are not interested in, driving its price up. So combine this significant (you can deny that as much you want) power difference, with the comparably small extra price you have to pay (especially for PS4), the prospect of way larger gaming libraries (I mean just look at how many games are announced for PS4 vs. Wii U ) and the generally alot better image among gamers of the Playstation and Xbox brand (after all they are not "casual/kiddy consoles") and it's not hard to see why the general masses perceive the PS4/X1 as superior products compared to the Wii U.

AGAIN, ARE YOU BLIND? TECHNOLOGICAL STANDPOINTS WAS NEVER MENTIONED. HE SAID THE CONSOLES WERE SUPERIOR, WICH THEY AREN'T.



Zero999 said:
DerNebel said:
Zero999 said:

invisible technical standpoint. are you blind? he said "superior consoles" and there is no such thing. the general audience couldn't care less about wich console has somewhat stronger specs.

Am I blind? Are you kidding me? Listen, the Wii U is inferior to the PS4/X1 from a technological standpoint, that is a simple fact, if that matters to the masses is nothing I even addressed. But sure since you bring it up why not talk about it? It is absolutely hysterical that you act as if you have any idea about what the general audience wants, mister "the Wii U will have sold 22mil console, by the end of 2014", you have no grasp of the situation the Wii U is in at all. And you know what? Power matters, If it didn't we wouldn't be getting new consoles.

Is power the only thing that matters? No.

Is it the most important thing about a console? No.

But in this generation it is one serious disadvantage the Wii U has. Because Nintendo tried repeating the Wii success, they ignored power and instead wanted to make the tablet the next big gaming revolution, but they failed and are now left with an underpowered console with a tablet controller, that the general masses are not interested in, driving its price up. So combine this significant (you can deny that as much you want) power difference, with the comparably small extra price you have to pay (especially for PS4), the prospect of way larger gaming libraries (I mean just look at how many games are announced for PS4 vs. Wii U ) and the generally alot better image among gamers of the Playstation and Xbox brand (after all they are not "casual/kiddy consoles") and it's not hard to see why the general masses perceive the PS4/X1 as superior products compared to the Wii U.

AGAIN, ARE YOU BLIND? TECHNOLOGICAL STANDPOINTS WAS NEVER MENTIONED. HE SAID THE CONSOLES WERE SUPERIOR, WICH THEY AREN'T.

Why aren't they? And why are consumers not agreeing with you?

Tech - PS4XB1
Third Party support - XB1/PS4
Online Infrastructure - XB1/PS4
Firsty party - Entirely debateable




 

Zero999 said:
DerNebel said:

Am I blind? Are you kidding me? Listen, the Wii U is inferior to the PS4/X1 from a technological standpoint, that is a simple fact, if that matters to the masses is nothing I even addressed. But sure since you bring it up why not talk about it? It is absolutely hysterical that you act as if you have any idea about what the general audience wants, mister "the Wii U will have sold 22mil console, by the end of 2014", you have no grasp of the situation the Wii U is in at all. And you know what? Power matters, If it didn't we wouldn't be getting new consoles.

Is power the only thing that matters? No.

Is it the most important thing about a console? No.

But in this generation it is one serious disadvantage the Wii U has. Because Nintendo tried repeating the Wii success, they ignored power and instead wanted to make the tablet the next big gaming revolution, but they failed and are now left with an underpowered console with a tablet controller, that the general masses are not interested in, driving its price up. So combine this significant (you can deny that as much you want) power difference, with the comparably small extra price you have to pay (especially for PS4), the prospect of way larger gaming libraries (I mean just look at how many games are announced for PS4 vs. Wii U ) and the generally alot better image among gamers of the Playstation and Xbox brand (after all they are not "casual/kiddy consoles") and it's not hard to see why the general masses perceive the PS4/X1 as superior products compared to the Wii U.

AGAIN, ARE YOU BLIND? TECHNOLOGICAL STANDPOINTS WAS NEVER MENTIONED. HE SAID THE CONSOLES WERE SUPERIOR, WICH THEY AREN'T.

No need to get all caps on me. It was pretty easy to understand that he meant from a technological standpoint or that it at least was part of what he meant with superior. Also dito to Seece's question.



Seece said:
Zero999 said:
DerNebel said:
Zero999 said:

invisible technical standpoint. are you blind? he said "superior consoles" and there is no such thing. the general audience couldn't care less about wich console has somewhat stronger specs.

Am I blind? Are you kidding me? Listen, the Wii U is inferior to the PS4/X1 from a technological standpoint, that is a simple fact, if that matters to the masses is nothing I even addressed. But sure since you bring it up why not talk about it? It is absolutely hysterical that you act as if you have any idea about what the general audience wants, mister "the Wii U will have sold 22mil console, by the end of 2014", you have no grasp of the situation the Wii U is in at all. And you know what? Power matters, If it didn't we wouldn't be getting new consoles.

Is power the only thing that matters? No.

Is it the most important thing about a console? No.

But in this generation it is one serious disadvantage the Wii U has. Because Nintendo tried repeating the Wii success, they ignored power and instead wanted to make the tablet the next big gaming revolution, but they failed and are now left with an underpowered console with a tablet controller, that the general masses are not interested in, driving its price up. So combine this significant (you can deny that as much you want) power difference, with the comparably small extra price you have to pay (especially for PS4), the prospect of way larger gaming libraries (I mean just look at how many games are announced for PS4 vs. Wii U ) and the generally alot better image among gamers of the Playstation and Xbox brand (after all they are not "casual/kiddy consoles") and it's not hard to see why the general masses perceive the PS4/X1 as superior products compared to the Wii U.

AGAIN, ARE YOU BLIND? TECHNOLOGICAL STANDPOINTS WAS NEVER MENTIONED. HE SAID THE CONSOLES WERE SUPERIOR, WICH THEY AREN'T.

Why aren't they? And why are consumers not agreeing with you?

Tech - PS4XB1
Third Party support - XB1/PS4
Online Infrastructure - XB1/PS4
Firsty party - Entirely debateable



I'm brand-new to this forum, but I've already learned that where you find a subtly angry anti-Nintendo screed, you will find Seece.  Seriously, man, you might want to pad your post history with some actual pro-Sony or Microsoft stuff because a disturbingly large percentage of your time here is apparently dedicated to trashing Nintendo.  You know, which is sad.  That it would matter so much to you.  Ahem.

I guess I won't make an observation about how typical for your demo the muscly-guy-you-wish-you-looked-like profile pic is either.