It's true that you have to play the game in order to know that it was worthwhile but again how would you know that the masses have purchased a bad game ? To even get to those levels of sales you would need some pretty good damn legs in order for that to happen. To obtain those legs, the masses little by little have to start mentioning something more worthwhile about it for that to happen. Quality is subjective in the eyes of an individual but sales and profits ain't because these stats are the ones that tell us if  people enjoyed the game. Therefore quality should be defined by the sales instead of what some individual says. If the game is trash I'm sure some people would be willing to return them or resell them. 

Did the masses like or was that some hardcore fan ? 

What difference does it make?

It makes ALOT of difference. It would essentially make the SALES = QUALITY point null and void. The reason I made the distinction between them is because hardcore fans are obviously gonna be biased. 

So what's your opinion on each of these games?

Rayman Legends, Psychonauts, Mirror's Edge, Grim Fandango, The Last Express, Okami, Shenmue, Last Window: The Secret of Cape West, Enslaved, The Wonderful 101?

Good or bad?

Probably all bad. There's a good reason as to why these games didn't sell well.

Jesus. Now I'm sure you are only another troll. You are now the new ninjablade

Moderated - Kresnik.

You wish but the fact that the matter is I don't run away from sales data because that's supposed to be the point of going to this site. 

you mean nothing ? Cause that's where your clearly headed with your argument

I'll leave it alone for now. Dont worry, your secret is safe with me ;)

What good is a description if nobody buys games based on what the review says ?

How exactly would a forum dweller like yourself know this? 

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Once again the best advertising isn't going to save a game. If the game gets good advertising but flops then you can clearly tell that it was trash.

because WORD OF MOUTH and REVIEWS about it being bad from individuals who played it got around

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Yea if the quality of a title is bad then its sales will eventually halt a lot quicker than it would have if it was Quality.

It sounds like you admitted defeat on that first line here.

again because the people who would've played it would've also let it be known that the game was bad. Maybe you should read it again, genius

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The only way to remove the bias is using sales as a measurement of quality. A consensus on a form of entertainment is better and more relevant than an argument against a stigmatized gaming community around here

umm.. no. The only way to remove bias is to play the game for yourself to determine to yourself if it was biased or not.

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It sounds like you failed to use your example to prove your point.

No. You just didn't comprehend it, Mr. Rudisha/Attaboy ;)

The GamePad is holding the Wii U back in the sense that it's way too difficult to grasp. It's as complex as the competition and then some.

Would the solution be to abandon it?

I don't believe so.

The solution would be what they're already doing. De-emphasizing it, in favor of showing people enjoying the games, and emphasizing that most of them can be played with the Wiimote.

This way, they're sneaking the GamePad and all the good it bring into the homes of people. After all, moreso than trying to be a new standard for controllers, the GamePad is trying to be an integral part of the console, that helps the system be more engaging to interact with, and people can discover this on their own once their got the system into their hands to play games that only need the Wiimote, like Mario platformers and Mario Kart.