007BondAgent said:
No one is going to take you seriously with that stupid name |
No one is going to take a guy playing anime games seriously. Pls. :D
007BondAgent said:
No one is going to take you seriously with that stupid name |
No one is going to take a guy playing anime games seriously. Pls. :D
Grandia said:
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I can't follow of your opposed sentences, but I will say that "Duh! Sony has made a lot of mistakes in the past 10 years." However they have a good CEO now who has his sh!t together. Hopefully MS will get the same.
LOL it's not hard for me to admit that Sony F'ed up a ton of stuff in the PS3 era. Some of you act like MS is your mom...
Prediction for console Lifetime sales:
Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million
[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]
3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m
I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.
[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]
Sony has only taken a total loss of $7 Billion over the life of the PS3. They only need to have nearly double the success of the PS2 to be profitable when only comparing the two platforms.
Gaming division profit/loss only:
2007 -1,970,923,859
2008 -1,079,994,103
2009 -577,207,240
2010 -1,050,000,000
2011 $435,500,000.00
2012 -2,800,000,000
2013 16,500,000
Total -7,026,125,202
Raistline said: Sony has only taken a total loss of $7 Billion over the life of the PS3. They only need to have nearly double the success of the PS2 to be profitable when only comparing the two platforms. Gaming division profit/loss only: 2007 -1,970,923,859 2008 -1,079,994,103 2009 -577,207,240 2010 -1,050,000,000 2011 $435,500,000.00 2012 -2,800,000,000 2013 16,500,000 Total -7,026,125,202 |
False... way wrong numbers... BTW I need to add FY2013 to the graph.
Game Division History
ethomaz said:
False... way wrong numbers. Game Division History |
Where did you get this from, I am very curious. I spent the last half hour searching for year end loss and gain reports for Sony's gaming devision and the number I posted where what I received.
Raistline said: Where did you get this from, I am very curious. I spent the last half hour searching for year end loss and gain reports for Sony's gaming devision and the number I posted where what I received. |
www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/er.html
I think you mistake is more about the FY2012... the Game division profited 1.7 billion yen... and FY2011 it profited 29.3 billion yen... after that I use the yen - dollar conversion that Sony posted in the same documents (like this table: http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/viewer/12q4/slide/image/17_image.jpg ).
BTW some guys confuses the NPS division with Game Division... in FY 2009, FY2010 and FY2011 Sony posted the results for the NPS division but when they removed the Game Division from the NPS again in FY2012 they showed the FY2011 data for comparison.
So you can see that the NPS have a loss of 20.2 billion yen in FY2011...
But the Game Division profited 29.3 billion yen...
PS3 is profiting since 2009 but the other parts of the NPS division was so bad that make the Division post loss.
My table shows a * in the FY2010 and FY2009 because it used the NPS data... the issue is that the Game Division alone did profited a lot these years but the NPS got loss in FY2009 and low profit in FY2010.
The reallity is that if you get only Game Division in these years the number cam be even better for Sony and maybe cover the first year loses.
Grandia said:
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Just wanted to point out that the "losses" were not all because of the PS3 though. PS3 has been "profitting" for a while now they just have not recovered the lossess that they sustained AS A COMPANY. But I do get your point though!
The absence of evidence is NOT the evidence of absence...
PSN: StlUzumaki23
d2wi said: Yes, but Xbox One still has other advantages, Kinect is better than PS Eye, more multimedia features, better launch titles. |
Better online. more stock of XB1 for the rest of the year and months after.
I think PS4 launching in so many countries made them have a large shortage of stock in many of the main countries like N.A., Australia, Germany, Spain, England, U.K. etc.. PS4's are going to be back ordered until the end of Jan at least. Was at Gamestop yesterday and they had just received a batch of XB1. Nothing from Sony unfortunately.
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ethomaz said: BTW some guys confuses the NPS division with Game Division... in FY 2009, FY2010 and FY2011 Sony posted the results for the NPS division but when they removed the Game Division from the NPS again in FY2012 they showed the FY2011 data for comparison. So you can see that the NPS have a loss of 20.2 billion yen in FY2011... But the Game Division profited 29.3 billion yen... PS3 is profiting since 2009 but the other parts of the NPS division was so bad that make the Division post loss. My table shows a * in the FY2010 and FY2009 because it used the NPS data... the issue is that the Game Division alone did profited a lot these years but the NPS got loss in FY2009 and low profit in FY2010. The reallity is that if you get only Game Division in these years the number cam be even better for Sony and maybe cover the first year loses. |
Thanks for the additional insight. I was taking my number entirely from news reports, which are not nearly as reliable as Sony's own reports. I had no idea it was that easily accessible.