Their judges at what they like to do and if they as a market deem it as quality then so be it! I FUCKING LOVE call of duty so there. 

Tagging for later........good night.

Same goes to you.

then wii games is the best then in your definition huh.... and call of duty :)

I've been talking to him for two days now. It's like he peels away at the skin your sanity like an orange and pisses on whats left of your common sense and intellect. I dub him Loki. Wherever he lives hope he stays away from running for any public office.

I will admit that I did love the shit out of the WII because of the extremely fun games and that especially goes with mario kart wii and wii sports. I won't deny the fact that I like call of duty too which is pretty decent.

I'm one of the few people who will not categorize dumb shit like "casual" or "hardcore" but a gamer is a gamer.

So says the supposed member of the PC "Master Race". Hypocrite much?

It's used to piss off others but PC gamers don't actually act like that. Unlike some of the actual elitists some like I have transcended to a much greater vision of what's truly important in gaming. Your so close minded that you refuse to see the fact that the WII succeeded by it's own merits but instead you give worthless excuses that have no bearing. 

My sig is used to put down every other console fanboys in their own place and enlighten them further. 

I think you guys are really overthinking this whole thing, because to me its pretty straight forward. Nintendo launched with NSMBU,ZombiU, and Nintendoland and had the 2nd best launch ever, at the time. What followed was 8 months of zilch,nada,NOTHING to sell the console to anyone that was'nt convinced at launch. Pikmin 3 gave a little boost, W101 did nothing, Wind Waker gave a little boost, and the price drop did very little. The Mario/Luigi Bundles along with SM3DW though have given it a huge boost. They have been top sellers on Gamestop,Target,Amazon, and Best Buy and have brought the sales back to a respectable level. Wii Fit U should draw some casuals. DK has a much bigger base then people give it credit for (1st one sold 6 m.) and then Mario Kart will come out which is Nintendos biggest franchise. This console is not the Gamecube guys, the Gamecube released Smash/Mario/Pikmin/Luigis Mansion/Metroid/Zelda and Starfox in the 1st year and no one cared. Wii U puts out one bundle and one Mario game and it is already selling much better.

Xbone and PS4 are a little harder to analyze because we are in the launch period but heres my best guess. Xbone sales are going to take a huge dive next year. They are already retail on ebay (demand is not that high), zero exclusive games are coming out (Titanfall on 360 is foolish), and $500 is a tough sell. PS4 will have no big exclusives as well (sorry but Infamous 2 was a flop, no one really cares) but overflow demand and a lower price should keep their sales at decent levels. I am a big believer in supply and demand and when the Wii U Mario/Luigi bundles are marked up for more than Xbox Ones, thats a really bad sign for the near future, while PS4 is still really expensive.

As for who is winning this gen.....The bottom line is that someone in the next year is going to drop "the killer app", and when they do, that's the console the masses will flock towards. It could be an open world Zelda, it could be a new Miyamoto IP, it could be Halo 5, it could be some new Naughty Dog game, who knows, but what has been proven over time is that the company with the best games to offer always wins. NES,SNES,PS1,PS2,Wii. All had their X-factors (DVD Player,Motion Controls,etc.) along with great games.

I would count nintendo out because at this point they want to put out more gamecube esque games instead of what the market is asking for.