Halo isn't trash, nor is Mario. I haven't played GT in a very long time though. My comment was too broad and unspecific.

The reason why they buy CoD and not games like Duke Nukem and Too Human is because they're "hardcore" games. You already implied the masses are the casuals with your comment. I'm not even sure if you're arguing with or against me at this point anymore.

You're under the false impression that people buy things because they are looking for quality.  Not only that, but you are also under the false impression that the majority of people know exactly what they're getting into when they buy something.  It also shows your lack of knowledge of how marketing works, and why people buy anything.  

If you see a trend where people buy single ply toilet paper over two-ply, would you really be under the assumption that all single ply toilet paper is better quality than two-ply?  

Ad populum fallacy.  Just because the majority see it as high quality games does not make it true.

No the reason they don't buy too human or duke nukem forever is because there obviously trash. There's nothing more to it, cased closed!

Well since the "masses are stupid" then I guess there dumb enough to buy trash games like GTA V and Halo for that matter. 

Then how do you go about measuring the quality ? if you use metacritic then I think were done talking.

Did you even read my post? They wouldn't even consider buying them. It isn't marketed nor made for them. You disagreed with me, then span my own argument around to use on me in the same post?

You have a few people on here disagreeing with you. Just walk away and accept defeat here, would you kindly?

People don't blindly act stupid and buy something they obviously don't like! That's like saying certain shit is the best because of randomness but that isn't true because the majority have specific reasons as to why one product is better than the rest. 

Marketing alone will not get a game through. Did you see what happened to BF4 ? That game had a higher marketing campaign than it's last iteration yet it's obviously a farcry from it's last iteration which was largely better. 

That's because single ply can match the thickness of a two ply while also being cheaper to produce so there's your reason. 

@Bold Thanks for your worthless conjecture. 

Your obvious arguement here is thinking masses don't care for quality but your problem in thinking that they would buy trash is that the WII U ain't flying off the shelves along with the vita.

Just because people don't believe in the idiotic hardcore opinion around doesn't mean that I can't point out their stupidity. 

Edit: BTW these so called "stupid" masses don't support trash either so there goes your theory in thinking they buy shit out of the window hence why too human and duke nukem forever flopped.

You know what's funny? The fact that the same people who held up the PS3 and 360 as having the best games, and derided the Wii for appealing to the masses but not having good games, are now defending the PS4 and Xbox One as being the systems that appeal to the masses despite the game quality, while deriding the Wii U for not selling games well enough, even if the games are higher quality.

And Metacritic had been their great symbol of quality - they always pointed to the number of PS3 and 360 games with a high Metacritic score, and the fact that it was higher than that of the Wii, to prove that the 360 and PS3 were the better systems. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, they bash Metacritic as being meaningless in the face of popular opinion.

And their justification for the claim that the PS4 and XBO are the better systems? Because of "more popular appeal"... never mind that neither system has sold anywhere near as many units as the Wii U (and yes, despite the 1 year lead, it is a relevant observation).

As of end of November...
PS4 tie ratio: 2.454
XBO tie ratio: 2.822
WiiU tie ratio: 3.205

So the claim that Wii U owners aren't buying games is just plain wrong.

EDIT: Notice that I make no disparaging remark about the PS4 or XBO. Or the PS3, or the 360. I wouldn't, because I'm a real gamer - I consider gaming to be what matters. PS4 and XBO will get their top-rated games, in time. And Wii U will get more top-rated games, too. The console war absurdity needs to stop - we are all gamers, and whether you prefer the PS3, 360, Wii, PS4, XBO, WiiU, 3DS, PSV, PC, or any other system, you should be celebrating the broad range of options we have, and not outright attacking other systems and celebrating poor results.

If you call yourself a gamer, and engage in console wars, then you're lying to yourself, and to everyone else.

Smallness of game library is one of the arguments? Please! This article is at least one year too early. If in a year's time the same arguments (other than game library size of course) can be made in favour of Wii U then we should expect Wii U sales to be higher than PS4bone. PS4bone are mostly selling on hype and promises. When the hype subsides if the promises aren't delivered people should, in theory go to Wii U.

Let's see how things are placed this time 2014.