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tiffac said:
small44 said:
tiffac said:
small44 said:

I write in a previous reply that those games are exception and attract millions of peoples in west,other japanease like Yakuza and Tales sold not that well  in West.

And those games are not better suited for psp sthat's why i don't agree withvthe topics.

You should have said that before because you confused me half to death with that reply. lol!

But my point is not about selling to the point like they do in Japan, my point is adding them to the library to bolster the confidence in the system because its getting support.

I don't think you understood what I meant. 

Majority of peoples don't care about those games,for majority of peoples support means put popular games on the system do you thinks millions of peoples will buy a psv for those niche games people buy a console for popular game but peoples buy niche games because they already have the console.

Again you do not understand what I am talking about, you only look at it at a consumers point of view. Try reading PLEASE.

The Vita does not have the luxury of getting big titles because Sony cannot even get the mid-tier games over and localize. How can any 3rd party dev have any confidence on a system with such a track record? but if its otherwise, then there is a chance they will put their games on the system and that would generate sales.

Do you get it now? Please for the love of God, please understand.

Call of duty and Asassin creed are enougth to prove big games could do well on Vita,how niche games would make 3rd party confident about psvita.

In Japan many niche games sold well but vita still don't have a better support for big editors.



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

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small44 said:
tiffac said:
small44 said:
tiffac said:
small44 said:

I write in a previous reply that those games are exception and attract millions of peoples in west,other japanease like Yakuza and Tales sold not that well  in West.

And those games are not better suited for psp sthat's why i don't agree withvthe topics.

You should have said that before because you confused me half to death with that reply. lol!

But my point is not about selling to the point like they do in Japan, my point is adding them to the library to bolster the confidence in the system because its getting support.

I don't think you understood what I meant. 

Majority of peoples don't care about those games,for majority of peoples support means put popular games on the system do you thinks millions of peoples will buy a psv for those niche games people buy a console for popular game but peoples buy niche games because they already have the console.

Again you do not understand what I am talking about, you only look at it at a consumers point of view. Try reading PLEASE.

The Vita does not have the luxury of getting big titles because Sony cannot even get the mid-tier games over and localize. How can any 3rd party dev have any confidence on a system with such a track record? but if its otherwise, then there is a chance they will put their games on the system and that would generate sales.

Do you get it now? Please for the love of God, please understand.

Call of duty and Asassin creed are enougth to prove big games could do well on Vita,how niche games would make 3rd party confident about psvita.

In Japan many niche games sold well but vita still don't have a better support for big editors.

Call of Duty was a disaster not even made by the same studio. Assassin's Creed was actually respectable and it actually helped sales at the beginning and even you cannot deny that.

Its not about just selling the games, its getting the games on the device. Don't you understand that part. How can you sell anything when you cannot even put them on it. I have no idea why you cannot understand this simple LOGIC!



trent44 said:

The Vita has pleanty of games.

I think the biggest issue right now is that Sony has done extremely poor in advertising the Vita.

The next biggest issue is how slow and sparse game localization is; if you look at this reccommended game list, you can see there are 45+ Japan only games being reccommended. Not all of them would be super popular here, but 10 or so of them would make the Vita more applealing to many PSP gamers who have yet to buy a Vita.


So the Vita does have games then. It's scary how lack of advertisement can really make you think that the Vita didn't have games at all....



riecsou said:

So the Vita does have games then. It's scary how lack of advertisement can really make you think that the Vita didn't have games at all....

Lack of advertisement.

...And petty internet fanboys.



brendude13 said:
riecsou said:

So the Vita does have games then. It's scary how lack of advertisement can really make you think that the Vita didn't have games at all....

Lack of advertisement.

...And petty internet fanboys.


Combined with denial and an obsession that another console is the only handheld system to have any games of note released.

Real gamers actually understand that the Vita's current predicament is a tradgedy. Whilst fanboys are loving it because they don't really care about actual software Only sales figures for their "team".



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MikeRox said:
brendude13 said:
riecsou said:

So the Vita does have games then. It's scary how lack of advertisement can really make you think that the Vita didn't have games at all....

Lack of advertisement.

...And petty internet fanboys.


Combined with denial and an obsession that another console is the only handheld system to have any games of note released.

Real gamers actually understand that the Vita's current predicament is a tradgedy. Whilst fanboys are loving it because they don't really care about actual software Only sales figures for their "team".

I did this thread while I knew I was going to buy the Vita sometime next year because of remote play with my PS4 then I learned a lot about it and I am actually getting the Vita next week during my vacations.
I saw the trailer of Terraway with the screaming at the screen and touching the screen, that is one game that should have been available to demo or play in every single gamestop. I didn't even know they had such a game until "small44" mentioned it.

And then VGhippy mentioned they currently have Uncharted, Gravity Rush free with PS+. Already download them on my PS3 . Sony is really doing a poor job in advertising the Vita.



To me, the main problem is that Sony is approaching PS Vita's strategy from a steal share perspective.

It's a problem for 2 reasons:
1) The entire category is going down because of the threat of substitutes (smartphones)
2) The demographic they're targeting (adults) are leaving the category entirely due to substitutes

So really, Sony is trying to steal adult gamers from the 3DS, when a majority of those gamers have already abandoned handheld gaming. Instead of pushing how differentiating the PS Vita is (better graphics, thumbsticks, etc) and push why consumers should want a handheld in the first place. There's a number of ways they can do this:

1) Smartphones are bad for gaming because of battery life. Emphasize that games drain a smartphone's battery very quickly, and the problem is compounded when the batteries get older. Sony can illustrate this by showing a person having their phone die on them, maybe missing an important call.

2) Smartphones are poor sources of entertainment for long periods of times. Smartphones are great for killing time on the short run. There's something new on the net you can look up, you can play a phone game for 5-10 minutes. But games like Angry Birds get very old and boring when you're at an airport or on the plane, especially when your flight gets delayed.

So again, I think Sony needs to go back to basics. Why should the average consumer even want a handheld when they already have an expensive portable device anyway?



All the awesome games is in Japan.

 



riecsou said:
trent44 said:

The Vita has pleanty of games.

I think the biggest issue right now is that Sony has done extremely poor in advertising the Vita.

The next biggest issue is how slow and sparse game localization is; if you look at this reccommended game list, you can see there are 45+ Japan only games being reccommended. Not all of them would be super popular here, but 10 or so of them would make the Vita more applealing to many PSP gamers who have yet to buy a Vita.


So the Vita does have games then. It's scary how lack of advertisement can really make you think that the Vita didn't have games at all....


Yea, it is peculiar.

The scary part is that each person claiming Vita has no games is part of a culture of writing things off due to lack of advertisement.

All this information is publicly available, but if it isn't advertised, then (for some reason) our internet cultured brains to just sort of write it off as having no games...

The problem actually goes further if you inspect at how critical thinking, proactive effort, articulation of morals/intent/etc. have gradually declined in the expanding "westernized" world, but that is another topic all on its own.



1) It's to high-end to begin with. The price is a problem, they should bring the 2000 model to West and give it a good price cut, close to US$ 150 (and they can, the current 2000 is probably selling with profit in Japan). Despite the OLED screen looking amazing, the LCD model is cheaper and would be more adequate.

2) The memory cards are to expensive and the digital games are pretty huge. It's easy to find games with 3 or 4GB. I've had a 8GB card and it was completely useless after 2 digital games. Even the 32 GB one isn't that big. It's a combination of huge games with expensive memory cards.

3) PS4 push. They need a PS4 + Vita bundle for US$ 500.

4) They should push it on Europe. US numbers are a disaster, Japan ones are more decent but it's because they are pushing it with everything there. EU frequently does better numbers than Japan and they aren't even trying there. A push on EU could help.

5) Outiside Japan, their advertisement is horrible regarding Vita.