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Yes/No?

Yes 148 33.04%
 
No 274 61.16%
 
Other ( post below) 26 5.80%
 
Total:448
RG3Hunna said:

What's the big deal if Iran gets a nuke? China has nukes, why do we just single out Iran and not china? Any country is going to get a nuke if they want and there's nothing we can do to stop them because technology is making it easy to create things like nukes. 

I've never said Obama was perfect, he's wrong for the drone strikes but then again all presidents have killed innocent lives with drone strikes. My point was obama is doing a good job for all the nonsense he has had to face with the republican house which is rated at an all time low.

Who did I call a racial slur? All I said was Fox News caters to racist and that is a FACT! It's a conservative bias station and majority of the republican states are in the minority hating south. Have you heard the saying "All republicans aren't racist but all racist are republican"? that's a FACT.

Lawrence Wilkerson a republican coming out and saying the truth majority of the republicans who oppose obama are racist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySNzT4RHbwk


Last reply for you. You've gone below the minimum bar of discussion. First a quick point. You said the video you posted was about people protecting the white girl. I said it was about them defending the black man. What is the title of the video from your own link? Guy Brings His White Girl To Barbershop In Harlem And Gets Hated On By Black Hairdresser.

Boom, you just got slammed hard! Hahahahahaha.

Now you clearly don't understand why Iran can't have a Nuke? It is because they would use it on Israel and although Israel isn't supposed to have nukes, we know they do have them and they would use them to retaliate and then it would be World War 3. Plus you probably don't think about this but most of these "countries" in the Middle East aren't real countries but more like mixed up tribes/groups that got stuck inside of some lines drawn by Western nations. So Israel might not just stop at Iran and likewise other Arab nations would be drawn in because if you blow up everyone in one tribe/group, all the same tribe/group in another country is going to want to fight back. Anyone not getting their news from a Comedy Central show knows this. So point blank WWIII fought with nukes and blowing up most of the oil production in the world on top of it would really, really suck bad.

All other presidents have killed with drone strikes. We haven't even had drones until recently. Go read your own language about slurs. You used a bunch of them but put them in quotes because it was imaginary stereotypical Republican in your head who was saying them and you were just repeating them in quotes. However no one really said them. You get to be a racist just because you use quotes and assign the words to someone else? That's bull.

Lawrence Wilkerson can call himself whatever he wants but that doesn't mean his opinions are anyone's but his own. The only people that say he is a Republicans is MSNBC where he does nothing but bag on Republicans while supposedly being one. I can see why he would do that because it is so hard to change your voter registration.



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el_gallo said:
RG3Hunna said:
 

What's the big deal if Iran gets a nuke? China has nukes, why do we just single out Iran and not china? Any country is going to get a nuke if they want and there's nothing we can do to stop them because technology is making it easy to create things like nukes. 

I've never said Obama was perfect, he's wrong for the drone strikes but then again all presidents have killed innocent lives with drone strikes. My point was obama is doing a good job for all the nonsense he has had to face with the republican house which is rated at an all time low.

Who did I call a racial slur? All I said was Fox News caters to racist and that is a FACT! It's a conservative bias station and majority of the republican states are in the minority hating south. Have you heard the saying "All republicans aren't racist but all racist are republican"? that's a FACT.

Lawrence Wilkerson a republican coming out and saying the truth majority of the republicans who oppose obama are racist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySNzT4RHbwk


Last reply for you. You've gone below the minimum bar of discussion. First a quick point. You said the video you posted was about people protecting the white girl. I said it was about them defending the black man. What is the title of the video from your own link? Guy Brings His White Girl To Barbershop In Harlem And Gets Hated On By Black Hairdresser.

Boom, you just got slammed hard! Hahahahahaha.

Now you clearly don't understand why Iran can't have a Nuke? It is because they would use it on Israel and although Israel isn't supposed to have nukes, we know they do have them and they would use them to retaliate and then it would be World War 3. Plus you probably don't think about this but most of these "countries" in the Middle East aren't real countries but more like mixed up tribes/groups that got stuck inside of some lines drawn by Western nations. So Israel might not just stop at Iran and likewise other Arab nations would be drawn in because if you blow up everyone in one tribe/group, all the same tribe/group in another country is going to want to fight back. Anyone not getting their news from a Comedy Central show knows this. So point blank WWIII fought with nukes and blowing up most of the oil production in the world on top of it would really, really suck bad.

All other presidents have killed with drone strikes. We haven't even had drones until recently. Go read your own language about slurs. You used a bunch of them but put them in quotes because it was imaginary stereotypical Republican in your head who was saying them and you were just repeating them in quotes. However no one really said them. You get to be a racist just because you use quotes and assign the words to someone else? That's bull.

Lawrence Wilkerson can call himself whatever he wants but that doesn't mean his opinions are anyone's but his own. The only people that say he is a Republicans is MSNBC where he does nothing but bag on Republicans while supposedly being one. I can see why he would do that because it is so hard to change your voter registration.

So you say they weren't defending the white girl they were defending the black guy because of the title of the youtube post? So If I put a title "Me Driving a BMW" and it's a youtube video of me eating Macaroni that means i'm not actually eating macaroni i'm actually driving a BMW? Watch the video they were comforting the white girl. She was fist bumped and comforted by black woman 1 and the last woman made the racist bigot aka actor go to the white woman and apologize and shake her hand. 

Do you realize how foolish your post sounded? and you actually think I got slammed hard? HAHAHA you have got to be trolling at this point, that's the only explanation for your rhetoric.

If Iran wants a nuke they are going to get one and there's NOTHING we can do to stop them and we're wasting our time/money trying to stop them. It's like folks who think they can stop terrorism. With technology advancing people can build bombs/drugs/guns/music/record labels/robots all from the comfort of their basement and you're telling me Iran won't be able to build a nuke? Stop being naive. 

Wait i'm a racist because I put quotes said from other individuals to prove my point? This is grade A trolling on your part dude, you have got to be the greatest troll of all time, next to Elpresador. 

I'm sorry but actually The Daily Show gives more accurate news stories than bias msnbc or fox news or cnn. Why do you think Fox News has Jon Stewart on their program all the time? Or tries to pin his watchers as slackers/weed heads. Because they know the Daily Show is a threat and Fox News doesn't want their brainwashed followers to see the light. 

Ohhhhhhh automatically try and marginalize Lawrence Wilkerson because the TRUTH he hit the public with doesn't fit your narrative? HA I would expect that from you. 



I think he is doing a great job considering the amount of opposition he has had. I am ecstatic about the affordable care act and wish that people would get there heads out of there behinds about it. Read it, in full. The states with the most issues are the ones rejecting it, they are the ones losing billions in government funding, not the states who approved it. This website fiasco is not his fault either. The states were all instructed to build there own websites, California did and has had no problems. Other states as well. All in all, I think he has done more good than bad.



NobleTeam360 said:
No, he set America back but I won't say by X amount of years. I just hope people begin to realize who really runs this country and it ain't the President.


The Jews and/or UFO's? (LOL had to Respond with something like that)



Scisca said:
I don't know about the internal stuff, as I'm not even remotely close to being an expert in USA and its internal problems, but as far as foreign policy goes, he's just such an idiot. I really can't express what a clown he is in this field. He's like a blind little kid walking around in darkness, has no clue about what's going on around him. Any single random republican would do a better job. Every single day with him in charge costs you more and more.
I mean, the way he recently got humiliated in Syria... Just painful to watch... It's gonna cost you dearly in the future to repair everything he's neglecting and messing up.


Mitt Romney was the candidate running against Barack.



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Scisca said:
Kasz216 said:
Scisca said:
I don't know about the internal stuff, as I'm not even remotely close to being an expert in USA and its internal problems, but as far as foreign policy goes, he's just such an idiot. I really can't express what a clown he is in this field. He's like a blind little kid walking around in darkness, has no clue about what's going on around him. Any single random republican would do a better job. Every single day with him in charge costs you more and more.
I mean, the way he recently got humiliated in Syria... Just painful to watch... It's gonna cost you dearly in the future to repair everything he's neglecting and messing up.


Eh, Republicans would of done the same.

Syria... he just underestimated just how doveish the American Populace had become.   I mean, Clinton could bomb the shit out of countries without even really anyone noticing.

 

Ever since Iraq though... everyones just fatigued, and looking harder and longer at ANY military actions.


Maybe you're right. It's sad if it's true, I'd rather believe America can still become the old America, cause it'd be much better for everyone.

Old America:

Colors (Blacks & Jews only) aren't allowed in a single Restuarant nor Hotel.

Take away rights given in 1957 & 1944 and you will have old America.

 

No thanks on that.



withdreday said:
RG3Hunna said:
withdreday said:

Only for people who were already racist to begin with...

Also, if George Bush didn't set white men back, then that answers your question right there. To be honest, it's a very silly question


Thank You!!!!!!

Bush made so many mistakes but he doesn't set whites back but let the black guy make mistakes and a select few feel he set black people back 20-50 years, it's hilarious. lol

Yeah, some people just love to attempt to justify their hatred and bigotry in some way. Even if Obama made Zero mistakes(which isn't even possible for a president) these types would be saying the same thing, no doubt about it.

Also the fact that they base a whole group off of one man is quite telling. It really tells you just the type of person they are.


Agreed.



NO!



binary solo said:
Of course not.

For people who aren't racist they will judge the Obama presidency without judging the entire African American demographic. The next African American candidate who comes forward is no more or less likely to get their vote than before 2008.

For people who are racist, they are already living >50 years in the past, so nothing has changed for them. And none of these people voted for Obama in either election. And they won't vote for the next African American candidate.

People who say they aren't racist but say they are less likely to vote for another African American candidate because of Obama, actually are and have always been racist.


Exactly.



LOL some have no clue how their own government works. Take a civics class. They're are 2 houses of congress a bill must pass and the president must sign it. He's not a dictator. No point to even go on, I'm not going to teach a class.

if you don't know congress holds all the power, You might want to read article one of the constition.

Here I will make it easy for you. I guess I will teach a class.

~~~~Article I of the Constitution states "all legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and a House of representatives." The House and Senate are equal partners in the legislative process legislation (laws or Bills) cannot be enacted without the consent of both chambers. However, the Constitution grants each chamber some unique powers. The Senate ratifies treaties and approves presidential appointments (Presidential picks for Judge's and other important positions) while the House initiates revenue-raising bills ( The power to Tax). The House initiates impeachment cases, while the Senate decides impeachment cases ( So senate has final word on the impeachment or the Removal of a Politician/person). A two-thirds vote of the Senate is required before an impeached person can be forcibly removed from office.
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The congress is made up of two houses or two bodies, the House and the Senate. Together they have 535 members. The house has 435 members, the Senate Has 100 members.

~~~~~~This does not the include your state congress or representatives, this is just national. I will focus on local soon.


_______________________________

=======The House==========
_______________________________


--- 435 Members represent the house.

--- The number of House members a state gets is decided by
the population of that state.

--- The number of citizens per congressional district is a average of 700,000 as of 2008.

---The lines of the Congressional district are usually drawn by the state legislator or by 3rd party ( not usual). This is why you should get to know your local state representatives. The congressional district lines are all drawn with in the state lines. So if you have 8 Congressman from a state, you have to draw out 8 congressional districts in that state.

--- The speaker of the house is decided by the party with the
most members in congress. for instance, the House has 433 members 2 are vacant, Right now the Republicans have 232 seats, in which 17 are vulnerable ( Side note for those paying attention), however the Democrats have 200 House members even though Democrats out voted republicans by 1.4 million votes. I will leave a video up of gerrymandering below and why we should have 3rd parties drawing up the congressional district lines, Like California.

--- Bills or laws must pass with 50% Majority, that's why they say, " The worst day in the majority is the best day in the minority.

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==========The Senate==========
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----- The Senate is made up of 100 members and is more unrepresentative.

---- Each state gets 2 Senators, no matter the population of that state. For Instance California has around 38,000,000 people. Wyoming has a population of 576,412, Both get only 2 Senators.

---- The Senate as it stands has 52 Democrats, 46 Republicans, 2 Independent ( Who Caucus with the Democrats or chamber with).

---- In order to get something to pass you need over 50% Vote majority, however in the Senate you have the Filibuster rule. So if the minority party wants (Republicans), They can Filibuster a bill that has passed if it doesn't have a 60% vote majority. The filibuster was not used that widely until recently, The Republicans blocked a big portion of great laws and bills passed in Obama's First 2 years. Even though he had a majority in the house and senate. The Minority can shut the government down, as you have seen. The founders wanted our government to work very slow, so ideas can be debated but I don't think they never intended for the filibuster to be used the way it has.

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=======Passing Bills or laws========
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~~~A bill may start off in the House or the Senate however any bill must pass both house's of congress (House & Senate) and then signed by the president to become law. However the president can Veto the law or bill.

~~~~If this happens, The law gets sent back to the congress. If the congress wants to over ride the Presidential veto, they need two thirds vote or 66% vote pass in both house's to over ride a presidential veto.

~~~~So you can see how one party can make it almost impossible to get a bill past. The filibuster in the Senate makes it that much more difficult. So really when something doesn't get done. It really is Congress that is making it difficult. So when someone always blames the President, In reality it's usually the congress. Unless the President has a 60% majority in the Senate and 51% majority in the house, then the President can be blamed for passing horrible laws if He/She is passing them or proposing bad legislation.(Looks at Bush)

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====The Powers of Congress (constitution)===
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(((((Article 1: Section 7 (bills))))))))

-----"All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills."-------

-------Meaning a law or bill for raising or lowering taxes, must start and pass the House of Representatives first, then Move onto the Senate. However the Senate can propose a Law or bill, in which the house can vote on but has to do it first. ------

((((((Article 1: Section 8 (Powers of the congress))))))

~~~~~ " The Congress shall have power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; " ---------------

~~~~~~This the first paragraph of Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution. This shows that the Congress holds a lot of the power. They are the only branch of government allowed to Tax, pay our debts, provide protection, and help out the poor. So when the debt limit is not being raised, the congress is actually not paying what they said they would already pay for. There for I think it is unconstitutional but that is another discussion.

(((((((The Rest of Article 1: Section 8 )))))))))))))))

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish a uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;—And
To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer there of.