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areason on 06 December 2013
WagnerPaiva said:
Weedlab said:

I don't trust people without avatars ....

 

 

I'll give it a look ... maybe.


Funny how I thought the same thing: "if he is a vgchater, why he doesn´t have a cool avatar like we all do?"

But, cool project.


Your avatar isn't cool! 



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Ganoncrotch on 06 December 2013
TheLivingShadow said:
ganoncrotch said:
TheLivingShadow said:

2. I may not post here a lot, but I've been in VGChartz since the very early beginnings, even slightly before Soriku became a member. I've seen this website change a lot, and I've seen its high times and low times (and right now for me, these are kind of low times). What I like a lot about the VGChartz forums are the high level discussions in politics and philosophy that sometimes take place. I preffer lurking a lot, and I do not like small talk; I only post when I believe I have something essential to contribute. If you don't believe me, look at my posting profile.

3. I would really appreciate it if some of you helped; mostly I was counting on some older users recognizing me. Of course, if you don't want to help an actual undergraduate engineering project at one of the best aerospace schools in the United States, that's fine too. Just do not think for a second that our project is half-assed and uninspired.

4. I forgot to mention; the Kickstarter is at 31% after its first day, so we're trying to ride on as much momentum as we possibly can.


1. so you think the site is at a low point during the launch of the 2 major players of the next generation from the looks of it yet you still come to ask for money?

2. you gathered 31% of your money needed on day one of an unknown project on a crowd funding source? this means that you basically have funding before hand who rather than taking off the amount you required from people on kick starter you added had their donations added via this site to make it appear as tho there was interest in your project from persons who are not affiliated with you to begin with?

1. I think it's at a low point for the amount of traffic and quality of discussion that I've seen before. Might just be nostalgia though. This is basically one of two forums I frequent, so why not give it a shot? From past experiences, it seemed to me that some people here would be all over supporting science (and yes, there is science in this project. If our aerodynamic model of the two-piece flapping wing is validated by experimental data that can be collected from a working ornithopter, that would alone be worthy of research publication).

2. Believe me, I am not above speculative tactics to achieve the main goal of acquiring the enough funds. There would be literally no point in doing that at this stage though, and I can honestly say that all the money gathered so far has been obtained primarily from Facebook sharing and asking family and friends. Particularly, some wealthy friends and family from some members have been generous. Also, keep in mind that 31% is just 310 dollars (now at 315). That's not really that much money.

 

What are you trying to get at anyways? There is no ulterior motive here. We're a senior design team trying to build an ornithopter, and we thought Kickstarter would be a good idea to acquire funding. Obtaining funding through the school is a lot of pain, because they don't order the parts timely, and it is hard to keep a swift line of communication between the staff responsible for funding us and our team.


Just keep this in mind, you've not posted here in 4 months, you're citing the reason for this on the userbase here not being up to your standards but we're apparently worthy of giving you money?

Besides you say that 315 dollars has been gotten from family and friends towards the project, my point exactly, that could have been done outside of kickstarter and you wouldn't lose a %age of what they were giving you to start it off to the site. You've routed the money from your friends and family into your kickstarter on Day 1 to make it appear as tho it is popular off the bat at the cost of the initial money they were willing to put forwards to you.



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SnowPrince on 06 December 2013

You've collected a fair amount thus far. You should be thankful.



WagnerPaiva on 06 December 2013
areason said:
WagnerPaiva said:
Weedlab said:

I don't trust people without avatars ....

 

 

I'll give it a look ... maybe.


Funny how I thought the same thing: "if he is a vgchater, why he doesn´t have a cool avatar like we all do?"

But, cool project.


Your avatar isn't cool! 


That hurts man, really hurts =/



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soulfly666 on 06 December 2013

Not going to lie, the project itself seems interesting.



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TheLivingShadow on 06 December 2013
ganoncrotch said:
TheLivingShadow said:
ganoncrotch said:
TheLivingShadow said:

2. I may not post here a lot, but I've been in VGChartz since the very early beginnings, even slightly before Soriku became a member. I've seen this website change a lot, and I've seen its high times and low times (and right now for me, these are kind of low times). What I like a lot about the VGChartz forums are the high level discussions in politics and philosophy that sometimes take place. I preffer lurking a lot, and I do not like small talk; I only post when I believe I have something essential to contribute. If you don't believe me, look at my posting profile.

3. I would really appreciate it if some of you helped; mostly I was counting on some older users recognizing me. Of course, if you don't want to help an actual undergraduate engineering project at one of the best aerospace schools in the United States, that's fine too. Just do not think for a second that our project is half-assed and uninspired.

4. I forgot to mention; the Kickstarter is at 31% after its first day, so we're trying to ride on as much momentum as we possibly can.


1. so you think the site is at a low point during the launch of the 2 major players of the next generation from the looks of it yet you still come to ask for money?

2. you gathered 31% of your money needed on day one of an unknown project on a crowd funding source? this means that you basically have funding before hand who rather than taking off the amount you required from people on kick starter you added had their donations added via this site to make it appear as tho there was interest in your project from persons who are not affiliated with you to begin with?

1. I think it's at a low point for the amount of traffic and quality of discussion that I've seen before. Might just be nostalgia though. This is basically one of two forums I frequent, so why not give it a shot? From past experiences, it seemed to me that some people here would be all over supporting science (and yes, there is science in this project. If our aerodynamic model of the two-piece flapping wing is validated by experimental data that can be collected from a working ornithopter, that would alone be worthy of research publication).

2. Believe me, I am not above speculative tactics to achieve the main goal of acquiring the enough funds. There would be literally no point in doing that at this stage though, and I can honestly say that all the money gathered so far has been obtained primarily from Facebook sharing and asking family and friends. Particularly, some wealthy friends and family from some members have been generous. Also, keep in mind that 31% is just 310 dollars (now at 315). That's not really that much money.

 

What are you trying to get at anyways? There is no ulterior motive here. We're a senior design team trying to build an ornithopter, and we thought Kickstarter would be a good idea to acquire funding. Obtaining funding through the school is a lot of pain, because they don't order the parts timely, and it is hard to keep a swift line of communication between the staff responsible for funding us and our team.


Just keep this in mind, you've not posted here in 4 months, you're citing the reason for this on the userbase here not being up to your standards but we're apparently worthy of giving you money?

Besides you say that 315 dollars has been gotten from family and friends towards the project, my point exactly, that could have been done outside of kickstarter and you wouldn't lose a %age of what they were giving you to start it off to the site. You've routed the money from your friends and family into your kickstarter on Day 1 to make it appear as tho it is popular off the bat at the cost of the initial money they were willing to put forwards to you.

1. As I already mentioned, I am naturally a lurker. Just because I haven't posted in the last 4 months doesn't mean that I haven't frequented this page. I frequent it almost everyday to see if there's some nice topic going on.

2. Keep it real: Most family and friends would not probably donate if the donation hadn't been formalized. It's the way it works.



Ganoncrotch on 06 December 2013
TheLivingShadow said:

 

2. Keep it real: Most family and friends would not probably donate if the donation hadn't been formalized. It's the way it works.

How much then of the 310 is from outside sources and not just your immediate family and friends? What is the real legit interest in the project outside of those who have an obligation to put their money towards it?

It's just to make a point of saying that you already have 1/3 of the money from investors because it's such a great idea but at the same time... this obviously includes a large portion of your own cash, unless you are not putting anything towards your own project money wise? See here is the double edged sword, do you claim that none of that 300 is yours which would mean that you don't actually think it's worth spending the money on yourself, or do say that it is from yourself which negates the impressive factor of already having 300dollars of investment. It might just have been an idea to not immediately drop all of the pre agreed family and friend donations on Day 1 for an unknown project, it looks fishy from the off.



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TheLivingShadow on 07 December 2013
ganoncrotch said:
TheLivingShadow said:
 

 

2. Keep it real: Most family and friends would not probably donate if the donation hadn't been formalized. It's the way it works.

How much then of the 310 is from outside sources and not just your immediate family and friends? What is the real legit interest in the project outside of those who have an obligation to put their money towards it?

It's just to make a point of saying that you already have 1/3 of the money from investors because it's such a great idea but at the same time... this obviously includes a large portion of your own cash, unless you are not putting anything towards your own project money wise? See here is the double edged sword, do you claim that none of that 300 is yours which would mean that you don't actually think it's worth spending the money on yourself, or do say that it is from yourself which negates the impressive factor of already having 300dollars of investment. It might just have been an idea to not immediately drop all of the pre agreed family and friend donations on Day 1 for an unknown project, it looks fishy from the off.

You seem to assume that it is somehow important to us (my team) to show that the general public has an interest in the project. That's not the case at all; we could care less about general public's perception if funding were not an issue. We aren't trying to sell the design to anybody at the moment(we might patent it later though) and it is not a part of our grade at all to try to show that people care. You're reading too much into nothing. We're simply looking for funds to get the first prototype working as soon as we get back from the Christmas Break, it's as simple as that. Secondly, we have already spent some money out of our own pockets for previous related experiments (see the foam model, joint testing, etc.), and of course we believe in the project.

Moreover, there was no pre-agreement for donations as you seem to assume. As I already said, most of the people who have donated have done so because there's the Kickstarter and probably not the other way around. I'm getting tired of debating this non-issue so I'll leave you to your speculation; if you want to discuss a more relevant part of our project, I'd be up for that.