Anyone who wants a PS4 this side of 2014 and hasn't already put themselves in an order queue is an idiot.

Well Brasil's gray market have a lot of PS4 on sales from every place of the world .

I spotted a couple in my local Sainsburys last night.

If anyones looking it may be wise to ring around your local supermarket in Blighty

Lol why does Sony even ship to Brazil if the prices are that high? Who in their right mind would buy one? 

There are a few odd consoles in the UK, but GAME have been selling the spares they have in £600 bundles from what I've seen

I really don't understand why people wouldn't have thought this through and put themselves on a wait list

Gray market is not supplied by Sony... it is companines that have obscures deals with others companies in all the world... so they receive shipments from Asia, Europe, US, Mexico, etc just because here you can sell expensive (more profit).

Just out of curiosity I went to the nearest MediaMarkt and there were people coming out with blue boxes under their arms. All without preorders...

And those were expensive PS4s, MM only sold $650 bundles with two games, sold out anyways early afternoon.

Thats his point, if you would have preordered you wouldn't need to fork out ludicrious amounts for shitty bundles which see knock up prices on what can be considered as sub standard games or crappy blurays which you really wouldn't buy on your own.

I had opportunity to buy knack bundle, with about £40 for knack, to which I just went #fuckthat just going to wait till march/april, for better bundles and more ample supply, as well as more software which will actually compell me to buy any of the nextgen consoles.

Its a dick move that neither of the manufacturers released BC but I guess they want to cash in still on the last gen before releasing BC as either an update or additional hardware which makes it possible.

The gaming world owes me a thanks. I have no interest in a PS4 until at the earliest late 2014. So that leaves one more PS4 out there for someone else. Yes, generosity is I.

US getting more consoles this Sunday I think.