Soleron said:
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Who has determined that the higher-ups in the company should be paid what they're worth? Whose determined that the Walton kids deserve billions for doing nothing?
Soleron said:
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Who has determined that the higher-ups in the company should be paid what they're worth? Whose determined that the Walton kids deserve billions for doing nothing?
EdHieron said:
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The market for CEOs is a free market. Thus it will find the optimal price between supply and demand for CEOs. What part do you disagree with?
The Walton kids were given the money by the person who earned it. Do you not think people should be able to spend their money how they want?
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Kasz216 said:
Ok, so it's gone from "All of euopre" to like... maybe 1/4th of Europe at this point. (I didn't even bring up Eastern Europe... which gez.) So, i've already more then proven my point i'd think, if we're using "Europe" as the bar to measure American politcians. Which seems weirdly anglocentric personnally.
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The flaw in your analysis comes from the ideology definition and confusion of means and purpose.
France for example may seem right-wing to you because it actively introduces values into society (social solidarity, concept of womanhood, and freedom from religion for example) but those are natural derivates of a strong state.
Fichte was the first to define a strong state and since the concept has been used for both progressism and conservatism. Just as a small state (US) is compatible with both conservatists and progressive policies.
And if a strong state may seem authoritarian to you it is because, again, there is a confusion. A legitimate government, which properly represents the majority while respecting the minorities, is the opposite of authoritarian.
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The way i would run the world, i would put a council that has total power like dictators, council members are not elected by the people, they elect themselves. Democracy is wrong when you give the voting power to countless retards.
Soleron said:
The market for CEOs is a free market. Thus it will find the optimal price between supply and demand for CEOs. What part do you disagree with? The Walton kids were given the money by the person who earned it. Do you not think people should be able to spend their money how they want? |
The truth of the matter is that during the Obama years the Wealthy White Capitalists have done a good job of shifting the animosity and disaffection of the poor white working class onto the black President. However, there have been times in American History when the poor workers haven't been content to just be passive sheep accepting whatever scraps the wealthy elite have pushed their way ie. during the Union Member / Coal Mine Owners Wars or in the 1930s when people like Bonnie and Clyde, Pretty Boy Floyd, and John Dillenger became folk heroes to many poor and disaffected people and FDR had to be elected and pass the New Deal Social Measures to pacify many people.
There are signs that America is headed towards another similar time. The popularity of Occupy Wallstreet for one and more recently the growth in popularity of campaigns like the Wal~Mart 1% and the fast food restaurant workers strikes are indications of that and I'm pretty sure the fervor will continue to grow over the next few years until something does come out of it like it did during the Coal Mine Wars or the 1930s and it's not going to be the poor workers that lose because as history shows, they always win those struggles.
EdHieron said:
You are deflecting. Please answer the question. It was nothing to do with race or class. However, there have been times in American History when the poor workers haven't been content to just be passive sheep accepting whatever scraps the wealthy elite have pushed their way ie. during the Union Member / Coal Mine Owners Wars or in the 1930s when people like Bonnie and Clyde, Pretty Boy Floyd, and John Dillenger became folk heroes to many poor and disaffected people and FDR had to be elected and pass the New Deal Social Measures to pacify many people. How does that have anything to do with the questions I asked. There are signs that America is headed towards another similar time. The popularity of Occupy Wallstreet for one and more recently the growth in popularity of campaigns like the Wal~Mart 1% and the fast food restaurant workers strikes are indications of that and I'm pretty sure the fervor will continue to grow over the next few years until something does come out of it like it did during the Coal Mine Wars or the 1930s and it's not going to be the poor workers that lose because as history shows, they always win those struggles. Those campaigns cannot overturn economic reality. Not everyone in America can be given free healthcare and spending money and a nice car and holidays. |
Let me inform you that you sound just as incoherent as the American Right who you probably despise. Also the world does not revolve around America. You're basically impossible to debate. I consider myself left-wing but also a realist.