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Age: 19

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Vikki said:

Obama is about as progressive as a piece of toast. He's progressive when compared to the likes of Mitt Romney, but only in social policy.

 

Also, anyone else think it's interesting that the people complaining generally fall on the side of the right?


War on coal, improved efficiency standards for cars, subsidization of green technologies, attempted immigration reform, trillion dollar deficits, attempted gun control, dramatically increased regulation of health care.

He's about as Big Government you could get. Anybody who says otherwise is in denial, probably because they, too, love a bit of Government in their lives and are appalled at the results under Obama.

 

Name: Samuel Smith

Gender: Male

Age: 22

Politics: Anarcho-Capitalist

Results:

Commentary:

 

"If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations." - Implication that both can't benefit at the same time - or, one's benefit must be reduced in order to increase the benefit of others. Voted disagree, not because I think it should benefit MNCs more, but because I disagree with the premise of the question.

 

"Because corporations cannot be trusted to voluntarily protect the environment, they require regulation." - While I do agree that corporations cannot be trued to protect the environment, I do not think that regulation helps, it only increases the problem. Corporations are a legal fiction created by Government. Corporations get super-rich thanks to Government. Corporations buy off the elections into Government. Corporations and Government are best friends, they are two heads of the same beast. The corporations write the regulation. Voting disagree.

 

"Abortion, when the woman's life is not threatened, should always be illegal." - Hang on, isn't this about my personal social values? If so, why is it asking me whether something should be illegal? I personally do not support abortion. I would never force a woman to have an abortion, and I'd always offer advice on the pro-life side of the camp. Doesn't mean I want it illegal, though. I try to live a moral life by myself, it is not my job to police what other people do. Voting disagree.

 

"The death penalty should be an option for the most serious crimes." - I do not trust the state with this power. However, I do think it is morally justified for the heirs of a victim to a murder to demand the death of the culprit, if proven. Voting agree.




SamuelRSmith said:
Vikki said:

Obama is about as progressive as a piece of toast. He's progressive when compared to the likes of Mitt Romney, but only in social policy.

 

Also, anyone else think it's interesting that the people complaining generally fall on the side of the right?


War on coal, improved efficiency standards for cars, subsidization of green technologies, attempted immigration reform, trillion dollar deficits, attempted gun control, dramatically increased regulation of health care.

He's about as Big Government you could get. Anybody who says otherwise is in denial, probably because they, too, love a bit of Government in their lives and are appalled at the results under Obama.

There's more to conservatism and liberalism than just big government. 



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I gave it look, i can tell you im no stinky socialists.



 

I believe in segregation. Or, how was it put, "good neighbourliness". Unfortunately this view is about as taboo as a German saying anything negative about any other race/nationality.

Oh well.



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Vikki said:

There's more to conservatism and liberalism than just big government. 


Do tell.



Neutral. I simply do not care at for all politics. After all most elected politicians/government officials are generally corrupt, break their promises and implement unsound policies.



SamuelRSmith said:
Vikki said:

There's more to conservatism and liberalism than just big government. 


Do tell.

I did word that rather poorly. Obama is in many ways more conservative than the likes of Reagan. His aggressive foreign policy, mindless use of drones that kill civilians, the zero tollerance policy when it comes to whistleblowers, persistence of the war on drugs, pandering to republicans, not taxing the rich their fair share, lowering taxes in general, letting corporations run rampant with the abuse of their employees, not closing Guantnamo, keepin US troops in Afghan,  and his general lack of true progress show that he is definitely not a progressive.

Despite the ridiculous assumptions of being a "socialist" or "progressive" he is neither



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Vikki said:

I did word that rather poorly. Obama is in many ways more conservative than the likes of Reagan. His aggressive foreign policy, mindless use of drones that kill civilians, the zero tollerance policy when it comes to whistleblowers, persistence of the war on drugs, pandering to republicans, not taxing the rich their fair share, lowering taxes in general, letting corporations run rampant with the abuse of their employees, not closing Guantnamo, keepin US troops in Afghan,  and his general lack of true progress show that he is definitely not a progressive.

Despite the ridiculous assumptions of being a "socialist" or "progressive" he is neither

Most of these things aren't "conservative", either.

But most of rhese are inevitable consequences of big Gov't, which is something that I think many liberals/progressives need to understand. Expanding the size of Government to meet certain needs... nationalized healthcare, strong green legislation, welfare, well-funded education... it has the consequences of a Government that does many of the things you've listed above.

The problem is compounded in the US, versus the EU, due to the extraordinary amount of wealth that the US Gov't can extract from its population. The Governments of Sweden and the Netherlands, for example, are confined by the fact that they cannot afford the global war on terror, the NSA, Afghanistan, etc, without severe and noticeable pressure on the quality of life of their citizens.

This is exactly why people in Europe should be opposed to expansion of the EU. If the EU gets the power to tax citizens directly, we're just going to be dealing with a USA 2.0



My political compass tends to be pointing in a B direction for Bored or Burnt Out.

I do think that every American worker that works 40 hours each week should be payed at least 25 thousand a year including a good health care plan paid for by their employers ( if you're part time the hours from your jobs should be added together so that if you're working 40 hours a week at different jobs that should count towards the total of 40). And that it should be illegal to raise the prices on goods and services from where they are now purely to take advantage of workers finally receiving a Living Wage.

Also hoping the Religious Conservatives never make a comeback.