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fighter on 02 December 2013
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I wouldn't bet on it.   Europeon countries are more rightwing then the US in a LOT of areas.

They just aren't areas we focus on.

For example... just about everything the Patriot Act did already exists in europe.

Various bannings of specific religious faiths, laws designed to make europe less hospitable.  (or in France's case.  laws be damned).

Sexual Harrassment, in most european countries only "Sleep with me or your fired" counts as sexual harassment more or less.

Europe is more conservative in a number of ways, which i could break down by pages, espeically going into specific cases...

 

Espiecally France, holy shit.  France is so right wing it's scary, yet everyone ignores it because they like to tax rich people.

Go north of France to countires like the Netherlands, Belgium, the whole of Scandanavia, the UK and Obama would be laughed out of parliament if he called himself left leaning.

Ok, so it's gone from "All of euopre" to like... maybe 1/4th of Europe at this point.  (I didn't even bring up Eastern Europe... which gez.)

So, i've already more then proven my point i'd think, if we're using "Europe" as the bar to measure American politcians.   Which seems weirdly anglocentric personnally.   

 


The flaw in your analysis comes from the ideology definition and confusion of means and purpose.

France for example may seem right-wing to you because it actively introduces values into society (social solidarity, concept of womanhood, and freedom from religion for example) but those are natural derivates of a strong state.

Fichte was the first to define a strong state and since the concept has been used for both progressism and conservatism. Just as a small state (US) is compatible with both conservatists and progressive policies.

And if a strong state may seem authoritarian to you it is because, again, there is a confusion. A legitimate government, which properly represents the majority while respecting the minorities, is the opposite of authoritarian.