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gmcmen on 30 November 2013
MohammadBadir said:
gmcmen said:
johnlucas said:
gmcmen said:
johnlucas said:
gmcmen said:
lightofhonor said:
johnlucas said:

The weakest system always wins.
Check your gaming history.
John Lucas


False. Dreamcast. (one exception.)

super nes , second exception.


I'm a Nintendo fan. Nobody doubts that, I'm sure.
But no one can deny the whomping the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive put on the SNES in the 4th generation.
SNES outsold the Genesis as Sega moved onto the 5th gen with the Sega Saturn.
Sort of like how PS3's now outselling the 360 in the extra innings of the 7th gen when originally it was behind.
As powerful as the Super Nintendo was to the Genesis, the race should not have even been close.
Yet it was.

I was there to witness it live as it happened.
And I love my Super Nintendo to this day.
But the Genesis rocked the SNES in the 4th gen. That is undeniable.
John Lucas


super nes 49 million total sales

sega genesis 30 million total sales

super nes kicked the genesis a$s


Remember I said that SNES overtook the Genesis as Sega moved on towards the 5th gen with the Saturn in 1994.
Between about 1991-1993, Genesis got the better of the SNES in America.
SNES was the descendant of the last generation's market leader, the NES, so it had advantage going in.
But the Genesis overcame those advantages in the heat of the 4th gen fight.
Genesis could only display a palette of 512 colors while SNES had a palette of 32,768 colors.
The powerful SNES should not have even struggled against the Genesis AT ALL if hardware power determined dominance.

Those who brag about being the strongest always end up having the weaker sales as a rule.
Outside of those special exceptions—which I explained how they became the exceptions—the strongest never wins.
John Lucas

It really doesn't matter nes was strongest console and it won, super nes samething, if your talking about the playstation brand, sony always wants to have the most powerful console, it's just with the playstaion and 2 there  competition came out a 1,5 years later so they had more powerful hardware, sony always bragged about the power of playstaion 2 the emotion engine and it can do toy story graphics.


No they weren't.

http://money.cnn.com/1999/03/01/life/playstation/ 



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Proxy-Pie on 30 November 2013
gmcmen said:
MohammadBadir said:
gmcmen said:
johnlucas said:
gmcmen said:
johnlucas said:
gmcmen said:
lightofhonor said:
johnlucas said:

The weakest system always wins.
Check your gaming history.
John Lucas


False. Dreamcast. (one exception.)

super nes , second exception.


I'm a Nintendo fan. Nobody doubts that, I'm sure.
But no one can deny the whomping the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive put on the SNES in the 4th generation.
SNES outsold the Genesis as Sega moved onto the 5th gen with the Sega Saturn.
Sort of like how PS3's now outselling the 360 in the extra innings of the 7th gen when originally it was behind.
As powerful as the Super Nintendo was to the Genesis, the race should not have even been close.
Yet it was.

I was there to witness it live as it happened.
And I love my Super Nintendo to this day.
But the Genesis rocked the SNES in the 4th gen. That is undeniable.
John Lucas


super nes 49 million total sales

sega genesis 30 million total sales

super nes kicked the genesis a$s


Remember I said that SNES overtook the Genesis as Sega moved on towards the 5th gen with the Saturn in 1994.
Between about 1991-1993, Genesis got the better of the SNES in America.
SNES was the descendant of the last generation's market leader, the NES, so it had advantage going in.
But the Genesis overcame those advantages in the heat of the 4th gen fight.
Genesis could only display a palette of 512 colors while SNES had a palette of 32,768 colors.
The powerful SNES should not have even struggled against the Genesis AT ALL if hardware power determined dominance.

Those who brag about being the strongest always end up having the weaker sales as a rule.
Outside of those special exceptions—which I explained how they became the exceptions—the strongest never wins.
John Lucas

It really doesn't matter nes was strongest console and it won, super nes samething, if your talking about the playstation brand, sony always wants to have the most powerful console, it's just with the playstaion and 2 there  competition came out a 1,5 years later so they had more powerful hardware, sony always bragged about the power of playstaion 2 the emotion engine and it can do toy story graphics.


No they weren't.

http://money.cnn.com/1999/03/01/life/playstation/ 

Talking about NES and SNES being the strongest in their gen. They weren't.



Soundwave on 30 November 2013

The SNES was realistically the strongest in its gen. 3DO was not a realistic competitior, neither was the Jaguar. These were extremely fringe consoles that no one bought (or could afford even if they wanted one in 3DO's case).



STRYKIE on 30 November 2013
johnlucas said:
lightofhonor said:
johnlucas said:

The weakest system always wins.
Check your gaming history.
John Lucas


False. Dreamcast. (one exception.)


That exception was because Sega ran out of money.
If they had the cash, they might have bested the PS2.
John Lucas

Did you by any chance miss that thread we had about 2001 just a few days ago?

 

The PS1 is still my favorite Sony platform, and think the PS2 is overrated (or at least, takes too much credit), but seriously, Sega could've been financially backed by a dozen Qataris and I don't think there would've been anything they could've done about the PS2's library and accolades that year.



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Aielyn on 30 November 2013
gmcmen said:
so sales numbers that sony, microsoft and nintendo feel good enough to trust are not good enough for you. 

NPD numbers are good enough for me. So are VGChartz numbers. I'm still waiting on that evidence, by the way.



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STRYKIE on 30 November 2013
gmcmen said:
lightofhonor said:
johnlucas said:

The weakest system always wins.
Check your gaming history.
John Lucas


False. Dreamcast. (one exception.)

super nes , second exception.

PS1, third exception. However, there was a system on a pure technical level that was more powerful than it, but the PS1 itself certainly wasn't the weakest either.

But for the record, when I say the more powerful system, here's a hint:

I'm not talking about the N64.



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PandaGames on 30 November 2013

Jesus, the Wii U is more powefull then the PS3 and XBox360!

It has plenty of games coming which will sell some systems. 

X, MK8, SSBU, .... and the biggest game for 2015: Zelda U. 

 

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The Nintendo bank amount is bigger then the Sony bank amount. 



 

STRYKIE on 30 November 2013
PandaGames said:

Jesus, the Wii U is more powefull then the PS3 and XBox360!

It has plenty of games coming which will sell some systems. 

X, MK8, SSBU, .... and the biggest game for 2015: Zelda U. 

 

+

 

The Nintendo bank amount is bigger then the Sony bank amount. 

How many people are aware of this again?



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Kane1389 on 30 November 2013
Aielyn said:
toastboy44562 said:

It is obvious the Wii U is not selling all that hot right now.

Sales of Wii U have increased by nearly 75% in the last two weeks. And it's only going to continue to grow through Christmas, as Nintendo consoles always do. And even right now, the Wii U sold roughly as much as the Xbox 360, and technically outsold the PS4. In other words, it's selling fine.


Jesus Christ, dat denial



Proxy-Pie on 30 November 2013
Soundwave said:
The SNES was realistically the strongest in its gen. 3DO was not a realistic competitior, neither was the Jaguar. These were extremely fringe consoles that no one bought (or could afford even if they wanted one in 3DO's case).


TurboGrafx? :P