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oniyide on 28 November 2013
Scisca said:
oniyide said:
You kinda have to ignore Zero on this, not even the other Nintendo fans are gonna back his insane claims and predictions


Ain't no way I'm doing that! It's so much fun laughing at what he says and how he tries to spin everything around!

i dont know, it was funny at first. sad thing is he'll never admit he's wrong, just keep dodging and making predictions. Its no coincidence he's been a ghost on the global charts of late



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oniyide on 28 November 2013
Zero999 said:
tbone51 said:
oniyide said:
You kinda have to ignore Zero on this, not even the other Nintendo fans are gonna back his insane claims and predictions


I'll back his predictions up *looks at his predictions..... "Only 1mil per week to hit 10mil Sales Lifetime in the next 7 weeks?" *runs and hides

you realize my old prediction doesn't have to be met to shut people's mouths, do you?

yeah it does, you're either right or wrong thats how it works



Mummelmann on 28 November 2013
Zero999 said:
Mummelmann said:

Zero999; weren't you the one saying the Wii U would sell 2 million in November alone, end up with 3 million for December and 10.2 million before January, outsell the One and PS4 combined (both of them reaching about 2 million by year's end)?

That makes it kinda hard to take your reasoning around any subject seriously. And your talk of "absolute value" is nonsense and purely subjective, especially considering that the PS4 and One have had about a week and a few days to get any games, let's have this discussion again in November 2014, that's when the difference will be evident. People are also back and forth on which Mario is a system seller. 5k bump in Japan in November? Ouch. And it's not as if 2D Mario kept the Wii U from sinking like a stone from January and out.

I suppose you could just go the obvious vgchartz route though; "undertracked"!

Do you understand that the Wii U might end up selling about 3 million units for the entire calendar year?

bolded: I can't understand something that exists only on alternate realities.


233k average from here on out equals about 3 million for the year. It might even go below. With normal holiday progression, it is set for peak weeks of around 350-400k, probably Black Friday week. The only one out of touch with reality here is you, nothing you have said in the past six months has come remotely close to being even ballpark correct.



Zero999 on 28 November 2013
Scisca said:
Zero999 said:

Even on the remote possibility of ps4 reaching 2M worldwide at the week ending november 30, wii u would have to sell 0 units since nov. 16 for those 2M = 50%. got that or need more explanation?

previous 3d marios didn't give huge boosts in japan either and that didn't stop them from giving big boosts elsewhere.

your "arguments" consist of saying wii u's graphics are last gen and it's online is bad (both wrong).


My God, you are so desperate you're trying to stick to hundredths of a percent? Hahaha. Remote possibility? The only question is how much they can ship, they have officially said they won't meet the preorders taken. And you are saying this, as if I didn't tweak the numbers in Nintendo's favour already. But if you want it that way - ok. Wii U is at 3.98 mil, PS4 at 1.08 mil. Already over 25%. If Sony ships the same number of consoles to EU as they did to NA, there is no way Wii U sells enough till the end of the month to be over 50%. Got that or need more explanation?

Previous 3D Marios did more. Guess we have to wait a bit for other teritories (can't wait for Europe ), but get yourself ready to creating more excuses. Or you could, you know, say I'm right and you're wrong. Would save you the trouble :P

It's not enough to say an argument is wrong. Please prove me wrong.

bolded: 10+ > hundreds of percent. got it memorized? ;)



Zero999 on 28 November 2013
Mummelmann said:
Zero999 said:
Mummelmann said:

Zero999; weren't you the one saying the Wii U would sell 2 million in November alone, end up with 3 million for December and 10.2 million before January, outsell the One and PS4 combined (both of them reaching about 2 million by year's end)?

That makes it kinda hard to take your reasoning around any subject seriously. And your talk of "absolute value" is nonsense and purely subjective, especially considering that the PS4 and One have had about a week and a few days to get any games, let's have this discussion again in November 2014, that's when the difference will be evident. People are also back and forth on which Mario is a system seller. 5k bump in Japan in November? Ouch. And it's not as if 2D Mario kept the Wii U from sinking like a stone from January and out.

I suppose you could just go the obvious vgchartz route though; "undertracked"!

Do you understand that the Wii U might end up selling about 3 million units for the entire calendar year?

bolded: I can't understand something that exists only on alternate realities.


233k average from here on out equals about 3 million for the year. It might even go below. With normal holiday progression, it is set for peak weeks of around 350-400k, probably Black Friday week. The only one out of touch with reality here is you, nothing you have said in the past six months has come remotely close to being even ballpark correct.

bolded: that's the alternate reality part I mentioned before.



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Seece on 28 November 2013
Zero999 said:
Mummelmann said:
Zero999 said:
Mummelmann said:

Zero999; weren't you the one saying the Wii U would sell 2 million in November alone, end up with 3 million for December and 10.2 million before January, outsell the One and PS4 combined (both of them reaching about 2 million by year's end)?

That makes it kinda hard to take your reasoning around any subject seriously. And your talk of "absolute value" is nonsense and purely subjective, especially considering that the PS4 and One have had about a week and a few days to get any games, let's have this discussion again in November 2014, that's when the difference will be evident. People are also back and forth on which Mario is a system seller. 5k bump in Japan in November? Ouch. And it's not as if 2D Mario kept the Wii U from sinking like a stone from January and out.

I suppose you could just go the obvious vgchartz route though; "undertracked"!

Do you understand that the Wii U might end up selling about 3 million units for the entire calendar year?

bolded: I can't understand something that exists only on alternate realities.


233k average from here on out equals about 3 million for the year. It might even go below. With normal holiday progression, it is set for peak weeks of around 350-400k, probably Black Friday week. The only one out of touch with reality here is you, nothing you have said in the past six months has come remotely close to being even ballpark correct.

bolded: that's the alternate reality part I mentioned before.

Hahahahaha you still think it's going to suddenly rise, man, too funny.

Hint: It isn't. Your 10m prediction is a pipe dream.

Also, better games? The general public disagree. Remember I just told you XB1 sold more in 48 hours in the UK, than the WiiU has done since LAUNCH.

Launch!!



 

Scisca on 28 November 2013
DerNebel said:
Scisca said:
EricFabian said:
ryuzaki57 said:
It begins.

But I agree, they will be forced to discontinue it if the holiday sales are poor


Vita too


Nah. Vita is profitable, especially in Japan, where only 3DS sales better. Companies making Vita games get outstanding profits there, far exceeding their expectations. There is no way it's gonna be discontinued, especially now when the West gets remote play.

Disagree. I don't think Sony will discontinue the Vita but I doubt that it makes them alot of money if any at all. We'll see what remote play can do, but I wouldn't be totally surprised if Sony at least dropped all western support for that thing.


I'm not saying Vita makes Sony alot of money, but it does to the Japanese developers. In Japan multiplat games sell better on Vita than they do on PS3 or PSP!! For Sony it's slightly profitable, nothing to write poems about, but it's not generating loses. Considering that, it's just a matter of time when profits become bigger. Killing it makes no sense at all. It's better to let it generate a small stream of income in the West, and a decent one in Japan, than starting a sh!tstorm, which would cause harm to your most faithful userbase.

One thing is certain. Remote play is a long term strategy for Vita. On top of that, Sony opening studios which only task is the localisation of Japanese games is another argument that Vita isn't going anywhere. I also hope that once PS4 settles as the dominant force of next gen, Sony starts pumping games for Vita, cause a turn on this front is still possible.



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

Scisca on 28 November 2013
Zero999 said:
Scisca said:
Zero999 said:

Even on the remote possibility of ps4 reaching 2M worldwide at the week ending november 30, wii u would have to sell 0 units since nov. 16 for those 2M = 50%. got that or need more explanation?

previous 3d marios didn't give huge boosts in japan either and that didn't stop them from giving big boosts elsewhere.

your "arguments" consist of saying wii u's graphics are last gen and it's online is bad (both wrong).


My God, you are so desperate you're trying to stick to hundredths of a percent? Hahaha. Remote possibility? The only question is how much they can ship, they have officially said they won't meet the preorders taken. And you are saying this, as if I didn't tweak the numbers in Nintendo's favour already. But if you want it that way - ok. Wii U is at 3.98 mil, PS4 at 1.08 mil. Already over 25%. If Sony ships the same number of consoles to EU as they did to NA, there is no way Wii U sells enough till the end of the month to be over 50%. Got that or need more explanation?

Previous 3D Marios did more. Guess we have to wait a bit for other teritories (can't wait for Europe ), but get yourself ready to creating more excuses. Or you could, you know, say I'm right and you're wrong. Would save you the trouble :P

It's not enough to say an argument is wrong. Please prove me wrong.

bolded: 10+ > hundreds of percent. got it memorized? ;)


Now I'm lost. Where did you pull that "10+" from again?



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

Zero999 on 28 November 2013
Seece said:
Zero999 said:
Mummelmann said:


233k average from here on out equals about 3 million for the year. It might even go below. With normal holiday progression, it is set for peak weeks of around 350-400k, probably Black Friday week. The only one out of touch with reality here is you, nothing you have said in the past six months has come remotely close to being even ballpark correct.

bolded: that's the alternate reality part I mentioned before.

Hahahahaha you still think it's going to suddenly rise, man, too funny.

Hint: It isn't. Your 10m prediction is a pipe dream.

Also, better games? The general public disagree. Remember I just told you XB1 sold more in 48 hours in the UK, than the WiiU has done since LAUNCH.

Launch!!

from what you told, it didn't outsell wii u. and that certainly doesn't relate to the quality of the software.

Of course my original 10M prediction won't happen, i even told you that quite a while ago. when i made that prediction I also said 9M was a worse case scenario. and recently, on the 10 week countdown, my prediction would put wii u at around 9.3M by the end of the year.

the big point is, are you ready to take responsability for your words when your super pessimistic 7M prediction is less accurate than mine?



Seece on 28 November 2013
Zero999 said:
Seece said:
Zero999 said:
Mummelmann said:


233k average from here on out equals about 3 million for the year. It might even go below. With normal holiday progression, it is set for peak weeks of around 350-400k, probably Black Friday week. The only one out of touch with reality here is you, nothing you have said in the past six months has come remotely close to being even ballpark correct.

bolded: that's the alternate reality part I mentioned before.

Hahahahaha you still think it's going to suddenly rise, man, too funny.

Hint: It isn't. Your 10m prediction is a pipe dream.

Also, better games? The general public disagree. Remember I just told you XB1 sold more in 48 hours in the UK, than the WiiU has done since LAUNCH.

Launch!!

from what you told, it didn't outsell wii u. and that certainly doesn't relate to the quality of the software.

Of course my original 10M prediction won't happen, i even told you that quite a while ago. when i made that prediction I also said 9M was a worse case scenario. and recently, on the 10 week countdown, my prediction would put wii u at around 9.3M by the end of the year.

the big point is, are you ready to take responsability for your words when your super pessimistic 7M prediction is less accurate than mine?

It's a 'few thousand off' MS will announce they've overtaken in a matter of weeks. Good as.

7m? Haha, that's not even my prediction, the ceiling is 6m. WiiU is just not selling 700k+ in US in Nov and then Dec, no way no how. Fact you think it's going to start selling 800k a week is laughable.