I did say that it looks to have OK lifetime sales

however having a shipment of 180K or so and selling 101K is good not to mention digital sales

if it has digital sales of 30K this week (doubtful) then it'll havea better first week than 64DS which sold over 1 million life time so this is why i said that it was a good first week

Remember wether being good or not is relevant to Nintendo if they only shipped 180K then i'm pretty sure that 101K first week is satisfying for them but we'll see how it holds up for the rest of the year

The simple promise of FFXV, KH3 and MGSV already locks the success of the PS4 (for a console in Japan).

Shipment is based on consumer demand and interest...

It's not like Nintendo forces copies at retailers. Retailers have to buy the copies from Nintendo and if they don't feel the interest from consumers then they won't order a lot of them.

And so shipment is only so telling.

even though i would love this to happen, its pretty obvious to me nintendo franshises are no longer system sellers they once were and there traditional consoles have been in decline, nintendo has always made great games, but there console market has been in decline, since the super nes days, the wiiu us the exception they came up with controls that every but wanted to try, but it was really just a fad that's over now, and nintendo goes back to norm ,

NES 69 million

SNES 49.10 million 

N64 32.93 million 

GC 21.74 million

Nintendo's the only Japanese publisher that really has any true might left though. 

Sorry but Square-Enix and Capcom are shell's of what they used to be, and hearing Square-Enix's president talk so much about going more and more mobile makes me think their Japanese side is basically going to be mobile centric aside from a small number of console games. 

Konami is basically the Metal Gear company, and I think they are due for some franchise fatigue there. Sega/Namco-Bandai/Level 5 .... ugh. 

It's not looking pretty right now. 

Nintendo still makes strong games, they just are hamstrung by stupid hardware decisions they made with the Wii U. Sony makes good hardware but doesn't have the effort/ability to make the types of Japanese games that Nintendo does. 

Nintendo's the only Japanese studio left pumping out games that are equal or better quality-wise than the best Western games (see: Mario 3D World's metacritic and Zelda: ALBW's also). Everyone else in Japan is just sucking gas. 

I agree with this the ps4 is lock, to be the console winner in japan, much cheaper and smaller then the ps3 when it first came and no real competition, it should easily exceed ps3 lifetime sales and it will be have every third party game on the console.

It's going to vastly outsell the PS3 with the same franchises as the PS3 (just 6 years older now)? I'd love to see that trick get pulled off. 

Japanese devs are moving away from consoles, even the big ones.  

Japanese kids are all about their smartphones now and Japanese game consumers never gave a crap about graphics to begin with. I mean look at the top 5 Japanese franchises -- 2D Mario, Pokemon, Dragon Quest, Monster Hunter, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, and Final Fantasy ... only the Final Fantasy games really have great graphics, the rest are games that could run fine on a 12 year old PS2. 

Nintendno makes amazing games, but GTA, BF4 and CODghosts have all out sold mario 3d first week in japan, there franchises are just not big system sellers anymore.

No one wants the Wii U. No one likes the concept. That's the problem. COD doesn't sell on the Wii U either, does that mean it's not a powerful franchise? Of course not, it just means its hard to sell software on the Wii U because its a platform without an audience. 

Mario 3D Land is tracking to sell 10 million on the 3DS, which is just fine. People just don't want to spend $300 on Wii U.

just like nobody wanted the n64 and gamecube, especially in japan. consoles and handhelds are 2 different markets, nintendo is handheld gaming, they have dominated the market forever.