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DerNebel said:

The 10 Week Countdown thread is not about US only, you've been here for 6 years, you know what that thread is about, don't lie to me.

You even included the jump the PS4 would make in its third week due to the European launch and argued with people in the thread over how low you prediction was for a simultaneous US and EU launch, so don't tell me you were talking about the US only.

So yeah I am talking about the 350k worldwide prediction, cause that's the one I saw, if you've changed your predictions you could send me link of that.

No I mean... this prediction was made a month ago based in data and I forget the EU launch for Xbone... that's was the first mistake... so the people there said that to me and I said that I will check the numbers and I even upped the Xbone week 1 to 400k (added 50k) but I can't find my change so you can forget that.

The point here is that after the deadline of this thread I checked new data/details and changed my prediction... after the PS4 launch I said that Xbone will have a better launch too so I added 300k for my prediction in 10 Week Countdown (the same difference I was wrong with PS4).

So my final Xbone prediction was posted in this thread... 600-700k in US.

You can believe or not but that's how close to launch the prediction changed.



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ethomaz said:

mibuokami said:

Dude, stop moving the goal post...

I don't know how you guys make predictions... but I will explain how I make them.

  • I analise the data in internet and talk with some guys... so I post the 1st prediction
  • I get more data and others info... so I change my prediction
  • I get even more data and others infor... so I change again
  • That's happen until the software/hardware launch

For predictions threads I matain the prediction I did until the deadline of the thread... so I was way wrong two weeks ago... but my after that my prediction changed... so you can look the date for all these posts.

The last one is the valid for the launch.

That's a wrong way to make prediction? I don't know but you change it every day with new info/details.

Na you just have this habid of pissing me off when you do it lol. Especially as you were still talking about the 400k prediction less than 5 days ago.




mibuokami said:

Na you just have this habid of pissing me off when you do it lol. Especially as you were still talking about the 400k prediction less than 5 days ago.

I changed the 400k prediction after the PS4 numbers out... you are right close to 5 days ago... PS4 did 300k better than what I expected so the Xbone will do better too... I added 200-300k units for my prediction for US.

At the last change two days ago I reach the number 600-700k for US.

The difference is how hard was my prediction...

- Right prediction a month before launch? Pretty good job.
- Right prediction a day before launch? So-so... we have more data.

So my prediction is fine but not AMAZING if I can put this same prediction a month ago... for the 10 Week Countdown I was extreme bad with my guesses... dammit it will fuck me to hold the good performance last year.

But for what I expected two days ago... I guess I was close but that is not a feat.

Anybody can make predictions like I do.. it easy and fun.



ethomaz said:

mibuokami said:

Na you just have this habid of pissing me off when you do it lol. Especially as you were still talking about the 400k prediction less than 5 days ago.

I changed the 400k prediction after the PS4 numbers out... you are right close to 5 days ago... PS4 did 300k better than what I expected so the Xbone will do better too... I added 200-300k units for my prediction for US.

At the last change two days ago I reach the number 600-700k for US.

The difference is how hard was my prediction...

- Right prediction a month before launch? Pretty good job.
- Right prediction a day before launch? So-so... we have more data.

So my prediction is fine but not AMAZING if I can put this same prediction a month ago... for the 10 Week Countdown I was extreme bad with my guesses... dammit it will fuck me to hold the good performance last year.

But for what I expected two days ago... I guess I was close but that is not a feat.

Anybody can make predictions like I do.. it easy and fun.

it does mean you come across like a rambling sham



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kirby007 said:

it does mean you come across like a rambling sham

I didn't get that but I think it not good for me



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ethomaz said:

kirby007 said:

it does mean you come across like a rambling sham

I didn't get that but I think it not good for me

couldn't find the proper translation for the dutch word "draaikont"
but basicly its like someone who changes stances all the time when its to his advantage



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Madword said:

That's only half the picture though right? I'm seeing this from a few people, even Pannello (sp).

Yes Sony had 1 million in NA... MS had 1 million (alittle more) worldwide. So it's the same right.. they are shifting the same amount of stock Well not really if Sony have say another 1/2 - 1 million consoles ready 1 week after the NA launch.. that's a massive difference in stock. Or do we really expect MS to ship in an additional number of consoles worldwide to equal the European launch in the next week.? There are rumours that PS4 stock is coming in the USA but they are holding it back for Next weekends BF (not sure if i think thats true or more precisely fair... especially if pre-orders are still massive.. they should be getting them first imho).


Ps4 WILL be in stock BF. Target wont put any systems out till then. But i would be shocked if MS didnt hold stock back also



kirby007 said:

couldn't find the proper translation for the dutch word "draaikont"
but basicly its like someone who changes stances all the time when its to his advantage

Thanks... I don't think I have any advantage changing the prediction near the launchs the original in the predictions threads are the valid for that thread.



ethomaz said:

Some data from GAF.

 
 

PS4:
- Best Buy, preorders: 0
- Best Buy, 'Buy Today': probably between 40-50
- Fred Meyer: 2

Xbox One:
- Best Buy, preorders: 0
- Best Buy, 'Buy Today': around 30
- Fred Meyer: approximately 10

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=90806939&postcount=55

Walmart in Monroe, NC

Xbox: 7 preorders
PS4: 49 preorders

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=90814520&postcount=86

Talked to my friend who works at a local gamestop (these are the entire store's numbers and not just his personal numbers):

Day 1 numbers:
Xbox sold: 20ish
PS4 sold: 40ish

They received 54 xboxes and 69 ps4s total so far.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=90855395&postcount=108

My local target got 8 walk in xbox ones and they had 20 walk in ps4s last week.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=90835439&postcount=102

 

Mine had 46 ps4 preorders and 21 xbox preorders. No way they are breaking 1 million

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=90810557&postcount=84

local target had 6 preorders for ps4. 9 for xb1.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=90810260&postcount=82

Local gamestop

PS4 - 79 preorders, 10 exta
Xbone - 55 preorders, 3 extra.

Demographics wise its considered a heavy xbox store so yeah. Interesting to say the least.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=90809615&postcount=78

Gamestop friend of mine works at here says 75 ps4s, 70 XB1s.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=90808754&postcount=73

5 at my local Walmart (Markham) versus 65 for PS4.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=90805946&postcount=36

From those numbers (US related), I was able to collect a total of

PS4 : 397 + 65   (60% to 63%)

XB1 : 267 + 5  (37% to 40%)

Total : 664 + 70

Again those figures perfectly match my original estimates for XB1 (35%-45%) and PS4 (55%-65%)

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=167458&page=1#



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N. America => XB1 :  49-52% vs PS4 : 48-51%
Global     => XB1 :  32-34% vs PS4 : 66-68%

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Pathetic people cant swallow their pride and apologize. Instead just dissapear