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carlos710 said:
This is true and is one of the reasons so many Sony and MS fanboys hate Nintendo. They fear the huge amount of AAA games that they can release by themselves and won't ever enjoy unless they betray Sony/MS

This post is highly unneccesary, posts like these do nothing but start console wars, please refrain yourself from making comments like these if you can. I don't want this topic to be derailed, and as a Sony fanboy I have no problem buying other consoles, I just 

 

A. Despite the 3D's low res screen.

B. Preffer consoles over handhelds.

C. Not attracted to NIntendo's mobile games more than console, i can't bring myself to buying a 3DS for 3D pokemon because it feels like all the handheld Pokemon games before it, familiar with just a 3D touchup. I just feel like console games feel better to play, can't really explain it. Besides I'd only play Pokemon on my 3DS, where I'm eagerly anticipating X and smash bros for the Wii U, so I'll probably end up picking that up anyways. 



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Daisuke72 said:
F0X said:
I've heard this one before.

I'm inclined to believe that it's more profitable for Nintendo to release new Pokemon games every 1.5 years, instead of spending tons of money and time on a game that would essentially make future releases completely pointless.


Not really, I was thinking more like the MMO only has the regions the mobile has done already, everytime there's a new region you have to buy the mobile game to explore it, and then when the next mobile game is released an expansion pack for the last region in the mobile game is released for the MMO. Or hell, keep it two regions behind. 


I could get behind this if Game Freak can make it happen without sacrificing its work on the handheld entries. It might require teaming up with a developer that has more experience with MMOs, like Square-Enix, though.

I'd be extremely impressed if Nintendo could pull it off without damaging Pokemon's effect on the handheld market.



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F0X said:
Daisuke72 said:
F0X said:
I've heard this one before.

I'm inclined to believe that it's more profitable for Nintendo to release new Pokemon games every 1.5 years, instead of spending tons of money and time on a game that would essentially make future releases completely pointless.


Not really, I was thinking more like the MMO only has the regions the mobile has done already, everytime there's a new region you have to buy the mobile game to explore it, and then when the next mobile game is released an expansion pack for the last region in the mobile game is released for the MMO. Or hell, keep it two regions behind. 


I could get behind this if Game Freak can make it happen without sacrificing its work on the handheld entries. It might require teaming up with a developer that has more experience with MMOs, like Square-Enix, though.

I'd be extremely impressed if Nintendo could pull it off without damaging Pokemon's effect on the handheld market.


Thing is, I TOTALLY got sucked into the digimon MMORPG and it's printing money at the moment and that's a BAD game, but the lore and world and concept itself got me into it, and Pokemon is like 20 times as popular as Digimon, the game would be beyond profitable.



Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
I don't know about that... Pokemon + consoles = curse... Seriously, not a single one has been that great so far... There were some that were fun but the handheld versions were leagues better. Not saying Nintendo can't use the power of the tri-force and make one godly ass game but man... Pokemon + consoles never seem to get along very well

Take this statement but apply it to consoles and portables.  Pokemon isn't a very good RPG.  Only Nintendo fans like the series because they've played few others.   



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kupomogli said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
I don't know about that... Pokemon + consoles = curse... Seriously, not a single one has been that great so far... There were some that were fun but the handheld versions were leagues better. Not saying Nintendo can't use the power of the tri-force and make one godly ass game but man... Pokemon + consoles never seem to get along very well

Take this statement but apply it to consoles and portables.  Pokemon isn't a very good RPG.  Only Nintendo fans like the series because they've played few others.   


How do you figure? Last time I checked, Pokemon was one of the most accessible RPGs out there, and through some sort of black magic, one of the deepest as well.

That doesn't smack of bad RPG design.



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carlos710 said:
This is true and is one of the reasons so many Sony and MS fanboys hate Nintendo. They fear the huge amount of AAA games that they can release by themselves and won't ever enjoy unless they betray Sony/MS

I really hope this is sarcasm. 



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F0X said:

How do you figure? Last time I checked, Pokemon was one of the most accessible RPGs out there, and through some sort of black magic, one of the deepest as well.

That doesn't smack of bad RPG design.

A video game is the sum of all its parts.  I like how people seem to give it a pass despite the fact that each and every 20+ hour single player campaign is absolute shit, and the competitive portion of the game is lying within that single player.  It's not good as a competitive game, even in friendly battles between people you know, until you finish the game and make a proper party.  The amount of time it takes to set up a decent party turns the game into a time sink. 

So yeah, it has deep gameplay, but doesn't mean the game itself is any good because most of that deep gameplay is spent doing menial tasks in order to properly participate.  Doing menial tasks in an RPG are boring rather than entertaining, it's not like you're trying to think of how to get this many units here by this amount of turns, you literally have an infinite amount of time to do these boring menial tasks.  It also doesn't help that choosing and completing a single turn in that competitive setting takes around 20 seconds after the players take their actions, both players, before they can choose their actions again.  Incredibly slow paced battle system.  

So when I say Pokemon sucks, and it does, I'm looking at the entirety of the game and how much time you have to spend to actually get to the enjoying part of the game when you're playing pvp.  If you're wasting time and not having fun getting to the good part, then it's not a very good game is it?   Final Fantasy 13 would potentially be a great game then because I hear from everyone that it gets good once you're 20 hours in.  Should I ignore the remainder of the game where it's not good only because I started having fun at the end? 

So I'd rather play a single player RPG that may or may not have gameplay that's as deep, because that 20-60 hour play through I'm being entertained the entire way through.  Rather than playing an incredibly boring single player portion of a competitive multiplayer RPG to possibly have fun with its incredibly deep gameplay for an incredibly short amount of time.



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