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OttoniBastos on 19 November 2013
Seece said:
OttoniBastos said:
Pjams said:
He most likely means 'Publishers' in general will have too many announcements. Since MS will spend most of E3 showing off all of their partners new products, they are going to have to be creative in how to showcase theirs. Don't forget, MS's new slogan is 'why create your own content when you can just pay a publisher to do it for you'

This is why i will not buy a xbox one(for now at least)....It's clear to me that MS will not invest in first parties again....They will focus on try to buy exclusive contents and exclusives third party games which is not the same thing because it can turn in multiplat anytime(Ninja Gaiden & Mass effect were once MS console exclusive,Final fantasy 13 and MGS were once PS exclusive,ETC..... )

Black Tusk
Osaka (Japanese studio)
Victoria (core studio)
Redmond (core studio)
Dakota (Project Spark)
Life London (Cloud XBLA games)

Isn't enough??

Lionhead, Rare and 343 all have solid 2nd teams now too.


Remember when 360 had games like Lost odissey(exclusive),Blue dragon(exclusive),Alan wake(console exclusive),Mass effect(console exclusive),Tales of versperia(exclusive)?

The time passed and they lose exclusivity/abandoned this kind of games and focus on Shooters,kinect and third parties temporary content....

Now 360 don't have nothing and sorry but,in my opinion, MS will do that again with the ONE. like Pjams said the MS's slogan is "why make exclusives if we can bought"  



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Seece on 19 November 2013
OttoniBastos said:
Seece said:
OttoniBastos said:
Pjams said:
He most likely means 'Publishers' in general will have too many announcements. Since MS will spend most of E3 showing off all of their partners new products, they are going to have to be creative in how to showcase theirs. Don't forget, MS's new slogan is 'why create your own content when you can just pay a publisher to do it for you'

This is why i will not buy a xbox one(for now at least)....It's clear to me that MS will not invest in first parties again....They will focus on try to buy exclusive contents and exclusives third party games which is not the same thing because it can turn in multiplat anytime(Ninja Gaiden & Mass effect were once MS console exclusive,Final fantasy 13 and MGS were once PS exclusive,ETC..... )

Black Tusk
Osaka (Japanese studio)
Victoria (core studio)
Redmond (core studio)
Dakota (Project Spark)
Life London (Cloud XBLA games)

Isn't enough??

Lionhead, Rare and 343 all have solid 2nd teams now too.


Remember when 360 had games like Lost odissey(exclusive),Blue dragon(exclusive),Alan wake(console exclusive),Mass effect(console exclusive),Tales of versperia(exclusive)?

The time passed and they lose exclusivity/abandoned this kind of games and focus on Shooters,kinect and third parties temporary content....

Now 360 don't have nothing and sorry but,in my opinion, MS will do that again with the ONE. like Pjams said the MS's slogan is "why make exclusives if we can bought"  

So you just completely ignore my post about them opening half a dozen new core studios, nice.

They'll have a mixture, as always.



 

ice on 19 November 2013
prayformojo said:
iceland said:

That's great, if they keep E3 all about the games like last time I'll be happy.

 

Looking forward to the future announcements


Yes, CORE games. I swear, if they try to pull another casual kinect, get the kids on the stage and giggle while petting fake tiger on stage BS, it's going to be a total fail. Seriously. E3 is for the hardcore nerds, such as ourselves. Leave the casual junk for yahoo news.


Those E3s were good for laugh, it looks like MS is done with that or at least I hope so! I couldn't handle another fist bump!



S.T.A.G.E. on 19 November 2013
Pjams said:
He most likely means 'Publishers' in general will have too many announcements. Since MS will spend most of E3 showing off all of their partners new products, they are going to have to be creative in how to showcase theirs. Don't forget, MS's new slogan is 'why create your own content when you can just pay a publisher to do it for you'

Exactly. This is why Microsofts launches are always so diverse, but when you cut it down to the first party they actually make thats when you see the true story.




Aerys on 19 November 2013
Seece said:
Aerys said:
He says " many game announcements " , no " exclusive announcements " ....

Microsoft will never have as many exclusive games as Sony have.

They have too much first party on shitty kinect/smartphone/family games and not enough on real games

If he's talking about announcements he's not talking third party multiplats.

All bar 1 of MS's new studios are working on core games.

They have set up other studios for MS's Sports, TV and Fitness/lifestyle and kids games that I didn't include.

Why even bring Sony into this?

 

Becausseee i dont trust microsoft about exclusives ?

If they dont say "exclusive",  he's also talking about futur third party multiplats.


The new studios are not enough, that's why we can bring sony ( and even nintendo) to make comparisons and see microsoft have a lot to do ( and to prove ) to be at the same level in term of exclusives.

especially when they cant rely on japanese exclusive third party support like sony and nintendo, they should have more first party team than them, not less !



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

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Pjams on 19 November 2013
Seece said:
Pjams said:
He most likely means 'Publishers' in general will have too many announcements. Since MS will spend most of E3 showing off all of their partners new products, they are going to have to be creative in how to showcase theirs. Don't forget, MS's new slogan is 'why create your own content when you can just pay a publisher to do it for you'


Killer Instinct, Quantum Break, Project Spark, Black Tusk, Halo 5, Kinect Sports Rivals, Fable Legends, Crimson Dragon, Ryse, Forza 5, Loco and Max all being 1st party/2nd Party ...

Ignoring Titanfall, Peggle 2, Garden Warfare, D4, Below, Dead Rising 3, Fantasia ect from third parties/indies ...

Their E3 conference was back to back exclusives.

He specifically talks about first party too.

MS has stated and reiterated for years now, it's not smart to invest in creating your own games when you can pay someone else to do it for you; and they have specifically cited Sony as an example of why not to do it.

We're getting a decent Xbone launch of games that runs through 2014, after that  ...



 

Seece on 19 November 2013
Pjams said:
Seece said:
Pjams said:
He most likely means 'Publishers' in general will have too many announcements. Since MS will spend most of E3 showing off all of their partners new products, they are going to have to be creative in how to showcase theirs. Don't forget, MS's new slogan is 'why create your own content when you can just pay a publisher to do it for you'


Killer Instinct, Quantum Break, Project Spark, Black Tusk, Halo 5, Kinect Sports Rivals, Fable Legends, Crimson Dragon, Ryse, Forza 5, Loco and Max all being 1st party/2nd Party ...

Ignoring Titanfall, Peggle 2, Garden Warfare, D4, Below, Dead Rising 3, Fantasia ect from third parties/indies ...

Their E3 conference was back to back exclusives.

He specifically talks about first party too.

MS has stated and reiterated for years now, it's not smart to invest in creating your own games when you can pay someone else to do it for you; and they have specifically cited Sony as an example of why not to do it.

We're getting a decent Xbone launch of games that runs through 2014, after that  ...

No you're twisted their words again, not bothering with you again if you're just gonna post FUD.



 

OttoniBastos on 19 November 2013
Seece said:
OttoniBastos said:
Seece said:
OttoniBastos said:
Pjams said:
He most likely means 'Publishers' in general will have too many announcements. Since MS will spend most of E3 showing off all of their partners new products, they are going to have to be creative in how to showcase theirs. Don't forget, MS's new slogan is 'why create your own content when you can just pay a publisher to do it for you'

This is why i will not buy a xbox one(for now at least)....It's clear to me that MS will not invest in first parties again....They will focus on try to buy exclusive contents and exclusives third party games which is not the same thing because it can turn in multiplat anytime(Ninja Gaiden & Mass effect were once MS console exclusive,Final fantasy 13 and MGS were once PS exclusive,ETC..... )

Black Tusk
Osaka (Japanese studio)
Victoria (core studio)
Redmond (core studio)
Dakota (Project Spark)
Life London (Cloud XBLA games)

Isn't enough??

Lionhead, Rare and 343 all have solid 2nd teams now too.


Remember when 360 had games like Lost odissey(exclusive),Blue dragon(exclusive),Alan wake(console exclusive),Mass effect(console exclusive),Tales of versperia(exclusive)?

The time passed and they lose exclusivity/abandoned this kind of games and focus on Shooters,kinect and third parties temporary content....

Now 360 don't have nothing and sorry but,in my opinion, MS will do that again with the ONE. like Pjams said the MS's slogan is "why make exclusives if we can bought"  

So you just completely ignore my post about them opening half a dozen new core studios, nice.

They'll have a mixture, as always.

Open more Studios doesn't mean that they will keep supporting multiples genres in mid/long term.

 

Like a said before, Microsoft had a lot of games that focus on the Hardcore gamers(like RPG for examples) but they just abandoned because the console don't sell very well in japan. And Xbox one is already doomed in japan,nothing that microsoft try to do will change this (Unless that Studio Osaka come with a Genius game).

 

So again RPG will be something "only third party" in the Xbox;

 

Note: I know about Fable legends,but i'm talking about mid/long term...

Note2: I'm using RPG genre just as a example of hardcore genre that xbox lack of.....



Aerys on 19 November 2013

He doesnt lie, they said it this month , they are going to pay a lot to buy games this generation, they love to do that and they dont see the problem.



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

ice on 19 November 2013
Aerys said:
He doesnt lie, they said it this month , they are going to pay a lot to buy games this generation, they love to do that and they dont see the problem.


And what exactly is the problem?