They are not counting the controller, which is always included. Besides their is R&D that Sony has to earn back, taxes, retailer cuts, transport and valuta exchanges.

All in all i think they're making a very small profit on the console, maybe not right now though, but begining in the next 3 months or so. Which is crazy when you think about how the situation was in PS3's case!!!

I believe someone from Sony said they will make a profit in Europe but not in USA because of the Euro. Overall probably around +-0 or a very tiny loss per console which they get back with at least one sold game.

That is not the only thing that is missing from this rather crude teardown.

Apparently, according to this teardown, the PS4 doesn't need a power supply (more costly than a PS3 ps), and neither does it need a mainboard (more costly than a PS3 mb). Then there are a few numbers that are simply off, like apu cost and factory profits. Let's go back in time when MS found a supplier willing to assemble the XBox360 for (curiously the quoted) $16 a piece.. we all lnow how _that_ turned out. Fast forward a few years since then and we mote that labor salaries have increased drastically since. The apu cost is also rather optimistic at this time of the cycle. We are looking at a large die (320mm^2) with probably low yields compared to a fully optimised manufacturing line, and AMD wants money (we know AMD talked about $3b they expect in the MS deal. $3b by (realistically) 100-200mio units means roughly $20 per apu on top of bare manufacturing costs. All in all, I see a manufacturing price of around $360 at the end of the assembly line. Add R&D recouping, royalties and other crazy stuff and we are around $420 cost for a box at this time for the first 20mio units. Biggest money savers after one or so, are of course, memory and apu which will shave $80 from the price.

Extremely unlikely, they more than likely make deals with indvidual IP holder to get the game onboard for a certain fee, and airing that out is like an employee showing all workers the wage of every employee under him.

Not for 5400 rpm. Mechanical storage is dirt cheap.

It will be Seagate. Their garbage products come standard in most electronics that use a hard drive.

The iFixit teardown revealed a Hitachi Travelstar Z5K500:


http://www.storagereview.com/hitachi_travelstar_z5k500_review_hts545050a7e380

Hitachi Deathstar. - Couldn't pay me to use one. :P

Go with the SSHD, size and speedy, can't complain.

Good news if true.

Oh they definitly do. At least in europe.

I had a friend during uni days that worked at a major retailer in Portugal and they would count PS3 sales very highly. It was a great day when they sold 3 in one day (on the store she worked in). So yeah... not only they make money, as they make alot.

So it's a Western Digital then, they bought Hitachi's HDD division years ago but license the name to help with sales to industry customers.