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Scoobes on 07 November 2013
curl-6 said:
fatslob-:O said:
curl-6 said:

How much do we know about this nylevia? What company does he dev for and what's his role there?

Nylevia was on vgchartz but he requested to be permabanned on his last thread. He couldn't disclose which company he works for but we do know that he is an engine programmer. 

How do we "know" he's an engine programmer? Again, I'm not saying he's not, just conscious of how anonymous the internet can be.

You won't get 100% certainty on this one. He could be an internet random playing the insider, but if he was he was very good at it. He seemed to know what he was talking about and on the level.

I would lean on the side of him having worked as an engine dev.




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fordy on 07 November 2013



forethought14 on 07 November 2013
fatslob-:O said:

That so called "oomph" could mean anything. That oomph could be referring to the wii us efficiency on obtaining more performance ingame.

You're confusing, do you agree that the GPU is more powerful than PS360? I mean, several statements from devs talking specifically about better graphics possible because of the GPU seems to indicate that.... 



Locknuts on 07 November 2013
dahuman said:

I wonder if there is a Ninjablade alt account in this thread lol..... I'll just leave it at that.

Anyways:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5737875

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5739470

 

Useful data was given before this dev requested a self ban due to idiots lol.

That thread was awesome! Damn idiots ruining it......



fatslob-:O on 07 November 2013
forethought14 said:
fatslob-:O said:

That so called "oomph" could mean anything. That oomph could be referring to the wii us efficiency on obtaining more performance ingame.

You're confusing, do you agree that the GPU is more powerful than PS360? I mean, several statements from devs talking specifically about better graphics possible because of the GPU seems to indicate that.... 

I am not confusing you guys. I am merely stating that less is more if you know what I mean.  

 

What I mean by the WII U being more "efficient" and being able to get a better output is that it's modernized gpu architecture can execute certain tasks with less cycles. The WII U can essentially do more with less power thanks to its features. Pemalite can back me up on this and and I agree with him for the most part but I think the word "significant" would be a little more of an overstatement if you ask me. :-p

 

Edit: I almost forgot, the wii u also has more memory to allow it to store better textures so that's one factor for it being able to get better visuals and maybe performance. Oh and I think nylevia would agree with pemalite's and my assessment of the wii u being more "powerful" but technically I would rather use the word more "efficient" because its more appropriate to the situation at hand.



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mhsillen on 07 November 2013
sonic321 said:
kopstudent89 said:
How can one person say it's twice as strong as the PS3/360 and another say it's weaker than them. Let's try to agree on it cause it does not us who have no idea what they mean. Thing is it looks better than last gen to me from the potential I've seen, just not that much better tbf


it's basically a 360 with more ram, it's a sorry excuse for a nextgen console, your paying for last gen tech and no real third party support to boot.


A holes are out in force



justinian on 07 November 2013
Locknuts said:
dahuman said:

I wonder if there is a Ninjablade alt account in this thread lol..... I'll just leave it at that.

Anyways:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5737875

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5739470

 

Useful data was given before this dev requested a self ban due to idiots lol.

That thread was awesome! Damn idiots ruining it......

It's amazing how emotional and hateful some people get over a piece of silicon and few transistors. Imagine if it was something really important.

 



forethought14 on 07 November 2013
fatslob-:O said:

I am not confusing you guys. I am merely stating that less is more if you know what I mean.  

 

What I mean by the WII U being more "efficient" and being able to get a better output is that it's modernized gpu architecture can execute certain tasks with less cycles. The WII U can essentially do more with less power thanks to its features. Pemalite can back me up on this and and I agree with him for the most part but I think the word "significant" would be a little more of an overstatement if you ask me. :-p

See, well you're making it seem like because it may have 160 ALUs, it isn't as capable in terms of processing power, and your attitude was kind of negative towards the whole thing. 

Well my point with this was that Latte would be able to create games more visually capable than PS360, even if by a little, despite its amount of shaders, because devs have told much about the GPU being more capable, plus having modern shader support and several other newer features. Significantly more capable is probably not what it is though.



fatslob-:O on 07 November 2013
forethought14 said:
fatslob-:O said:

I am not confusing you guys. I am merely stating that less is more if you know what I mean.  

 

What I mean by the WII U being more "efficient" and being able to get a better output is that it's modernized gpu architecture can execute certain tasks with less cycles. The WII U can essentially do more with less power thanks to its features. Pemalite can back me up on this and and I agree with him for the most part but I think the word "significant" would be a little more of an overstatement if you ask me. :-p

See, well you're making it seem like because it may have 160 ALUs, it isn't as capable in terms of processing power, and your attitude was kind of negative towards the whole thing. 

Well my point with this was that Latte would be able to create games more visually capable than PS360, even if by a little, despite its amount of shaders, because devs have told much about the GPU being more capable, plus having modern shader support and several other newer features. Significantly more capable is probably not what it is though.

Read my edit. :-p

 

Edit: My attitude was a mix of both negativity and neutral.



Captain_Tom on 07 November 2013
Mr Khan said:
Captain_Tom said:
fatslob-:O said:
Captain_Tom said:
attaboy said:
is that good or bad?


Terrible.  I don't even think that beats an HD 6450, a $40 card on newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102933

 

It is really not any more than 20% stronger than a PS3 + more RAM.

Do you mean the card or the wiiu being 20% stronger with more ram ? 

Well the Wii U of course lol.  Though that $40 card alone does have twice as much ram as the PS3, and as much video ram as the Wii U has total usable RAM for games lol!

PC architecture has always been ineffecient about memory usage. They cannot be compared directly.

That's not true.  Video RAM usage is every bit as optimized (Or at least there is nothing to suggest otherwise).  System ram really isn't bad either.  Metro LL only uses 500MB of my 8GB, and the windos OS uses 1.5 GB.  So that's 2GB total running one of the best looking games maxed out.  I don't call that innefficient when the Xbox One uses 3GB for the OS...