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KingdomHeartsFan said:

Who cares...I mean what do people gain from deciding which console won the generation when tbh in the grand scope of things your opinion is irrelavent.

A massive ego and that especially goes for the OP and some in this thread. 



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Kinneas14 said:
Anfebious said:
platformmaster918 said:
Ask when the gen is over. For those of you saying a new one starting ends the previous gen, if a person has a child do they automatically die?


We can't compare a new born to a piece of plastic box. The generations is going to be over once the PS4 and Xbox One releases. The PS3 had an excellent run, and made an impressive turn around but it's not the "winner".

Besides what Jay said! We won in the end!


It depends. If the PS3 can really manage to sell 20 million units more, then it means that it wasn't really over. 20 million would be 1/4 of what PS3 sold up to now and, even though I think it's really unlikely, it would be a clear sign that the generation wasn't over.

PS2 sold about 33% of its total after its successor came out.  If PS3 manages just 20% of its sales post PS4 launch it will be above Wii




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fatslob-:O said:
The winner is the wii! No matter how you all spin it both microsoft and sony are the losers this generation and that especially goes to sony. Microsoft only leached off from sony instead of creating their own audience. Your analysis of so called "casual crowds" is completely stupid. Tactical standpoint ? LOL there is no such thing. Instead of giving some damage control to the fact that microsoft lost (as well as sony for the others in this thread) why don't you so called "core" gamers acknowledge the fact the wii shitted on the sub hd twins this generation.

Someone is raging pretty hard today. 



NobleTeam360 said:
fatslob-:O said:
The winner is the wii! No matter how you all spin it both microsoft and sony are the losers this generation and that especially goes to sony. Microsoft only leached off from sony instead of creating their own audience. Your analysis of so called "casual crowds" is completely stupid. Tactical standpoint ? LOL there is no such thing. Instead of giving some damage control to the fact that microsoft lost (as well as sony for the others in this thread) why don't you so called "core" gamers acknowledge the fact the wii shitted on the sub hd twins this generation.

Someone is raging pretty hard today. 

No raging here.  

People need to stop being in denial about the WIIs existence!



Wii won. And its not even close. Sold more units (which has always been the deciding factor) Made more money than PS3 lost for Sony, and strategically turned around their console business in one fell swoop.



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If the Wii sells less than 20 million in 2009 (as defined by VGC sales between week ending 3d Jan 2009 to week ending 4th Jan 2010) Slimebeast wins and get to control Arius Dion's sig for 1 month.

If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.

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Arius Dion said:
Wii won. And its not even close. Sold more units (which has always been the deciding factor) Made more money than PS3 lost for Sony, and strategically turned around their console business in one fell swoop.

LOL both camps of the sub hd twins will refuse to acknowledge this fact. It doesn't matter if the xbox gain grounds or that the playstation lost ground. The winner is the almighty WII and that's what counts most so the losers are the sub hd twins LOL. 



platformmaster918 said:
Kinneas14 said:

It depends. If the PS3 can really manage to sell 20 million units more, then it means that it wasn't really over. 20 million would be 1/4 of what PS3 sold up to now and, even though I think it's really unlikely, it would be a clear sign that the generation wasn't over.

PS2 sold about 33% of its total after its successor came out.  If PS3 manages just 20% of its sales post PS4 launch it will be above Wii


Yes, you're right, but PS2 was PS2 and it was helped by the horrible PS3 start.

PS3 is not in a position to sell this much after PS4 hits the market. 



The Wii for right now.
Even if the PS3 does eventually overtake it, it would be hard to not give it to the wii. But I am sure most of the internet will say the PS3 will be the winner when or if it does. If the Wii was run by a company that cared about it? I think we could have had it near that 110 million that many predicted for it years ago.
NOw it will be lucky to hit between 102-103 million lifetime in sales. Yes... I am biased and even that is probably too much.
Cough...DS.



IT's was a blood bath this Gen.



RolStoppable said:
I don't think anybody really won.

1) Nintendo rediscovered their formula for success, but then abandoned their machine and did a complete turnaround to pursue the failed strategies from before the Wii.

2) Microsoft's goal was to have the #1 selling console of the generation (hence the "first system to 10m wins" mantra). Not only did they fail at that, but their gains also came mostly down to Sony messing up big time. Xbox cemented its position as a very US and UK centric brand, so as long as they'll stick with their brand, they'll never have a realistic chance to become global sales leader. Their position of fake dominance late in the generation also got to their heads and thus they moved towards what they really care about: non-gaming.

3) Sony lost on all fronts in their pursuit of non-gaming. Money, market share, goodwill. Should the PS3 miraculously end up in first place once all systems have stopped selling, then it would be a devastating sign for the video games market. Over 100m consoles sold and #1, but zero profits to show for it.

4) Gamers lost, especially those who liked the Wii and/or PC gaming. The Wii got hardly any worthwhile third party support despite selling better than any other system before it while a lot of big name PC developers began to make consoles their lead platform which led to watered down PC gaming. Not just on consoles, but on the PC itself as well. And those who liked what the 360 and PS3 had to offer saw their rights reduced or removed step by step in the industry's pursuit of the blockbuster model.

Nowadays the big publishers either nickle and dime their consumers or they are selling out to mobile platforms in hopes to save their flailing businesses. All because it's unthinkable to put a stop to the blockbuster model and get costs under control. As a result, the eighth generation will see fewer game releases that will also happen to be even more similar to each other. That's not healthy for gaming and if gaming isn't healthy, it isn't good for gamers. Some will not acknowledge that something is going wrong on a broader scale before it hits their personal gaming habits though.

Pretty much. Like I said; this gen had three losers, each in their own way, with a few highlights and a couple of comebacks strewn across the surface.