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iamdeath said:
Jazz2K said:


Sad you say? By their definition of gaming, gaming isn't possible if it's not on Playstation or even if it is it can't be fun or relevant. 

MS got away with being the only one to have an online service that required you to pay. I think they'll get away for some minor graphical resolution. 

People should stop acting like everybody will see a noticeable difference between the two, and thinking everyone has a tv that run 1080p visuals... this is getting beyond sadness it's not even funny.

I hope you see the irony of your post...It works both ways, especially if you look at selnors post history lol. Every fanbase acts that way, don't pretend it doesn't. This thread alone is proof of that. Try to eb more objective.

First I don't visit Sony forums as I don't plan on buying a PS4 anytime soon, maybe in a few years though as I like playing games not consoles. Second, stop acting so childish. You're trying to justify your acts by pointing other people's act.



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Thought you guys might find this interesting. I left out the super fail consoles. I did this off memory, so correct me if there's any mistakes. Each gen is ordered from weakest to strongest.

1st Gen I'm not sure about the exact specs
2nd Gen 2600 Atari Highest Selling
  Intellivision Mattel  
  ColecoVision Coleco  
  5200 Atari Lowest Selling (I think)
3rd Gen NES Nintendo Highest Selling
  7800 Atari Lowest Selling
  Master System Sega  
4th Gen TurboGrafx 16 NEC  
  Genesis Sega  
  SNES Nintendo Highest Selling
  Neo Geo SNK Lowest Selling
5th Gen Jaguar Atari Lowest Selling
  3DO 3DO Company  
  Playstation Sony Highest Selling
  Saturn Sega  
  N64 Nintendo  
6th Gen Dreamcast Sega Lowest Selling
  PS2 Sony Highest Selling
  Gamecube Nintendo  
  Xbox Microsoft  
7th Gen Wii Nintendo Highest Selling
  Xbox 360 Microsoft Lowest Selling
  PS3 Sony  
8th Gen Ouyu ? Some guy Lowest Selling (yup)
  WiiU Nintendo  
  Xbox One Microsoft  
  PS4 Sony  



Number of times the strongest console was the highest selling - 0
Number of times the weakest console was the highest selling - 3
Number of times the strongest console was the lowest selling - 2
Number of times the weakest console was the lowest selling - 3
Number of times the best selling console was somewhere in the middle - 3

I guess the moral of the story is that the power of the console has very little to do with how well it does.




8th gen predictions. (made early 2014)
PS4: 60-65m
WiiU: 30-35m
X1: 30-35m
3DS: 80-85m
PSV: 15-20m

Xb one is not weak hardware. Wii U is weak hardware for gen 8, just like Wii was. Xb one is comparable but a bit less powerful than PS4, but it's not weak. That is unless you're going to say all gen 8 hardware is weak.



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Raven722 said:
novasonic said:
The most powerful console of each generation has never ever ever been the top seller.


Look at what the more powerful consoles were though. Either they were the most expensive (sometimes way overpriced), beaten to the punch by a console that was already highly successful, or had no previous history in the industry. The PS4 is the most powerful and is not the most expensive, was not beaten to the punch by a successful console (relatively speaking), and has a brand history.


What if the Steambox is more powerful than the PS4?  I have no clue because I haven't been keeping up with any news regarding the supposed system.  Sure your point still stands but if another competitor jumps into the race offering higher specs along with higher price then it will continue the streak of highest powered system not selling the most.

Just read this...

"Even better, the hardware itself is customizable. If you want to upgrade your CPU, GPU, hard drive, or even your motherboard, you’re encouraged to do so."

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/168084-valves-steam-box-specs-revealed-seems-like-a-letdown

So in fact the Steambox will probably be the most powerful if you custimize it.



People talk so much about power and graphics as if it's the most important aspect of gaming. It's sad. Buy a PC and never play older games that are considered by many to be the greatest, like Ocarina of Time and just be quiet already.



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Weren't you the same guy falling over yourself defending the Xbox One?

 

Well I can rest assure you that it's not going to happen. It'll sell out at launch but overall it's getting pantsed in preorders 2:1. It's almost safe to say this console war is over. They seriously might as well delay it tbh with you.

(With that said though, I hope I still win one via Mountain Dew!)



ironmanDX said:
People talk so much about power and graphics as if it's the most important aspect of gaming. It's sad. Buy a PC and never play older games that are considered by many to be the greatest, like Ocarina of Time and just be quiet already.

What if you consider old PC games such as Magic Carpet, Duke Nukem 3D, Civ3, Starsiege: Tribes, C&C: Red Alert, Starcraft, Links 386 Pro, SimCity 2000, Sim Theme Park, X Wing VS Tie Fighter, etc.. to be greater than Ocarina of Time?



sethnintendo said:
ironmanDX said:
People talk so much about power and graphics as if it's the most important aspect of gaming. It's sad. Buy a PC and never play older games that are considered by many to be the greatest, like Ocarina of Time and just be quiet already.

What if you consider old PC games such as Magic Carpet, Duke Nukem 3D, Civ3, Starsiege: Tribes, C&C: Red Alert, Starcraft, Links 386 Pro, SimCity 2000, Sim Theme Park, X Wing VS Tie Fighter, etc.. to be greater than Ocarina of Time?


Then hopefully you still continued PC gaming, unlike me. I played most of them titles. Ever since I've moved away from my parents home a few years ago, I haven't had a gaming PC unfortunantly. Growing up, ammirite?



sethnintendo said:
ironmanDX said:
People talk so much about power and graphics as if it's the most important aspect of gaming. It's sad. Buy a PC and never play older games that are considered by many to be the greatest, like Ocarina of Time and just be quiet already.

What if you consider old PC games such as Magic Carpet, Duke Nukem 3D, Civ3, Starsiege: Tribes, C&C: Red Alert, Starcraft, Links 386 Pro, SimCity 2000, Sim Theme Park, X Wing VS Tie Fighter, etc.. to be greater than Ocarina of Time?


Or you could buy a PC and actually play Ocarina of Time. :P :P :P




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The lineup of announced games for Xbox One stomps the PS4 with all their $2 sidescroller indie titles and lack of AAA games.

in 2013:
It is Knack and Killzone vs. Ryse, Dead Rising 3, Forza 5 and Killer Instinct.

in 2014 (so far):
It is InFamous and Driveclub vs Halo 5, Kinect Sports Rivals, Quantum Break and Titanfall

And I am not even counting games like Project Spark or Zoo Tycoon.
Gamewise this is no competition right now.

This is all IMO.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...