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If true, PS4's 180 means

A Sony has no shame ! 105 30.97%
 
B Gamers are gullible ! 52 15.34%
 
A&B - Both are to blame 99 29.20%
 
C - None, common practice 82 24.19%
 
Total:338
arcane_chaos on 28 October 2013

well hypothetically I'd cancel my pre-order; move my BF4/AC$/Watchdogs to their current gen platforms



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TriumphOverStupidity on 28 October 2013
fighter said:
BaldrSkies said:
When asked if it was possible to play games on PS4 without ever connecting it to the internet (which means no day one patch), Shu gave a pretty straight answer.

"Yes."


Checked the rumor again and the patch won t shouldn t affect launching of games indeed.

OP has been edited.

OP is debunked, so he changes OP. 

It's really sad that you do these things.



chapset on 28 October 2013

Are we starting rumors now ? with no source to support them? We even have a high up executive saying the opposite to what that said rumor claim.



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fps_d0minat0r on 28 October 2013
kowenicki said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
kowenicki said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
"C - None, common practice"
it is common practise for a large organisation to evaluate all their options. what matters is the option they ultimately chose.


which also applies to MS of course...


not really, because sony left it on the drawing board (and no-one knew until now, assuming ofcourse it is true). MS went ahead with it and tried to push it for many months before accepting defeat.

wtf...

How would withdrawing it by a patch be leaving it on the drawingboard exactly?

I'd call that dishonest in the extreme.  What the OP is hypothesizing is that the patch REMOVES the DRM from the PS4 and Sony lied all along.  Care to answer again now?

 

 


the rumor is that sony had ideas about DRM, but it isnt built into the system and the patch doesnt remove whats not there.

Sony have already announced you can buy a PS4 and play games without ever going online, this includes pre-owned games so im not sure what has led you to believe all launch PS4's come with DRM and you cant play games without the update.

Its online games that you cant play, but that applies to PS3 as well. if theres an update available for ps3 and you dont download it, then sorry youre not going online. thats not DRM, thats called 'the hardware having the software to be able to connect to networks to play games online'

Just because the hardware is ready it doesnt mean the software is. in addition to what sony and MS announce for day 1 updates, there will also be things like codecs, drivers and other patches which they didnt have ready in time when the consoles were manufactured and they sure as hell are not doing to go to every single console and update them.



OdinHades on 28 October 2013
kowenicki said:
OdinHades said:

kowenicki said:

[...]

yeah there is only one kind of DRM

the thread is an hypothesis anyway.  I think the repsonses so far are telling actually.


There is indeed only one kind of always online DRM.

answer the hypothetical question.


I really don't know. I would most likely make a thread on vgchartz about how Nintendo was planning the same thing or something. :P



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fighter on 28 October 2013
chapset said:
Are we starting rumors now ? with no source to support them? We even have a high up executive saying the opposite to what that said rumor claim.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=170934



chapset on 28 October 2013
fighter said:
chapset said:
Are we starting rumors now ? with no source to support them? We even have a high up executive saying the opposite to what that said rumor claim.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=170934

They originally said the drm would be left to the developers and here I have source saying the no drm thing since february

http://www.dailytech.com/Sony+We+Wont+Block+Used+Games+on+the+PS4+Even+if+Microsoft+Does/article29957.htm

http://kotaku.com/5985874/ps4-will-not-require-an-always+online-connection



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fps_d0minat0r on 28 October 2013
kowenicki said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
kowenicki said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
kowenicki said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
"C - None, common practice"
it is common practise for a large organisation to evaluate all their options. what matters is the option they ultimately chose.


which also applies to MS of course...


not really, because sony left it on the drawing board (and no-one knew until now, assuming ofcourse it is true). MS went ahead with it and tried to push it for many months before accepting defeat.

wtf...

How would withdrawing it by a patch be leaving it on the drawingboard exactly?

I'd call that dishonest in the extreme.  What the OP is hypothesizing is that the patch REMOVES the DRM from the PS4 and Sony lied all along.  Care to answer again now?

 

 


the rumor is that sony had ideas about DRM, but it isnt built into the system and the patch doesnt remove whats not there.

Sony have already announced you can buy a PS4 and play games without ever going online, this includes pre-owned games so im not sure what has led you to believe all launch PS4's come with DRM and you cant play games without the update.

Its online games that you cant play, but that applies to PS3 as well. if theres an update available for ps3 and you dont download it, then sorry youre not going online. thats not DRM, thats called 'the hardware having the software to be able to connect to networks to play games online'

Just because the hardware is ready it doesnt mean the software is. in addition to what sony and MS announce for day 1 updates, there will also be things like codecs, drivers and other patches which they didnt have ready in time when the consoles were manufactured and they sure as hell are not doing to go to every single console and update them.

You dont seem to know what hypothetical means.

I do know what it means.

I just dont know why people are misinterpreting the rumour for which the question is about.

The rumour has never been that PS4 comes with DRM built in because its never been an issue as the first time they showed off the PS4 they specifacally mentioned that you can play games without ever going online.

If you think thats the rumour then atleast tell me where you got it from, because from what i know the rumour is that sony looked into the same DRM as microsoft.

according to the link below, the DRM isnt even related to the hardware, its related to the online infrastructure.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=170934



fps_d0minat0r on 28 October 2013
chapset said:
fighter said:
chapset said:
Are we starting rumors now ? with no source to support them? We even have a high up executive saying the opposite to what that said rumor claim.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=170934

They originally said the drm would be left to the developers and here I have source saying the no drm thing since february

http://www.dailytech.com/Sony+We+Wont+Block+Used+Games+on+the+PS4+Even+if+Microsoft+Does/article29957.htm

http://kotaku.com/5985874/ps4-will-not-require-an-always+online-connection


Exactly, its been their message from the beginning, hence no u-turn.

i have no doubt that they thought of drm, but the point is that it stayed within their office.

if people want to start counting 180's for things which were never announced, its going to be pretty hard.



fighter on 28 October 2013
chapset said:
fighter said:
chapset said:
Are we starting rumors now ? with no source to support them? We even have a high up executive saying the opposite to what that said rumor claim.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=170934

They originally said the drm would be left to the developers and here I have source saying the no drm thing since february

http://www.dailytech.com/Sony+We+Wont+Block+Used+Games+on+the+PS4+Even+if+Microsoft+Does/article29957.htm

http://kotaku.com/5985874/ps4-will-not-require-an-always+online-connection

please answer the hypothetical question, otherwise, about the rumor itself you can go to the link provided and repost what you wrote here