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DD_Bwest said:
why are you guys talking about matt, did he say something?


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87776824&postcount=1190



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ironmanDX said:
Daisuke72 said:
ironmanDX said:
9087 said:
@Daisuke.... Exactly.

The resolution speaks for itself. PS4 being 1080p while X1 is only 720p speaks volumes.

Wow, you guys are just something else. The Wii U can hit 1080p ffs and that ting got picked on for not being powerful enough?!?... Are some on this site so blind with bias that you can't see that this is just developers and not the hardware? Forza hits the 1080p 60fps but instead, lets talk about the far less impressive looking games running in 720p and pretend it's a big deal..... Yeah, like a lot of people on this site play CoD...

I'm not even sure why people believe half of the news that comes from NGAF these days. It's all negative and it's all aimed at the Xbox One. Is anyone home or have the lights just been left on?

Yes, the Wii U can hit 1080P, but visually it would be inferior to a Xbone game running at 720P. Like I said, anyone who isn't in denial and knows anything about computer hardware knows there's a significant difference.

 

Prove me wrong, please. Inform me on how a 7790 level GPU with only 32MB EDRAM isn't at a disadvantage against a 7970M/7870 level GPU with GDDR5? Microsoft is also preserving 10% of the GPU power for the OS, so that makes it more 7770 level for games, the EDRAM is a bitch to use and it simply isn't a lot to work with for graphically intensive games. 

 

Care to explain how the difference is negligble?

 

edit: Don't even kn ow I'm waisting my time arguing with you, it's pretty obvious that Xbox fans will deny this no matter how much proof is presented to them

Lol....

 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5670407

 

Now please, go away.

Funny you can post a link proving my point, yet you can't explain to me how the difference isn't noteworthy? Nice evasion, and of course you spoke on me first, and had nothing to back yourself up with and now asking me to go away? lol k.



bubblegamer said:
TheHunt3r_Orion said:
Damn. Now this bullshit rumor??? Holy shit. Everytime something goes bad for fucking Playstation, a new bogus Xbox rumor shows and everyone hops on the dick sucking tour that is Xbox bashing.

Don't go bitching and crying when it happens on November 12th. THAT is the key date. THAT is when the dam breaks. I personally cannot wait to feast on Sony ponies.


Such language! Great new addition to the website you are.

The console is getting way too much bad press for me to belive all is well. We'll know for sure after launch, but it's clear SOMETHING is up.


Not that I agree with him but calling a bunch of Gaf rumors "bad press" seems to be beyond a bit of a stretch there. Yes something is up, people who do not like MS are trying in every way they can to down play it and since that is what you want to hear, its got to be believable.



DD_Bwest said:
why are you guys talking about matt, did he say something?

* I will use quotes but I'm just posting what I remember... so the words can be a little different *

He said "This thread is facining"
Somebody asked "Did you just confirmed the rumor?"
He said "Hmm, no I didn't, did I?"



ListerOfSmeg said:
bubblegamer said:
TheHunt3r_Orion said:
Damn. Now this bullshit rumor??? Holy shit. Everytime something goes bad for fucking Playstation, a new bogus Xbox rumor shows and everyone hops on the dick sucking tour that is Xbox bashing.

Don't go bitching and crying when it happens on November 12th. THAT is the key date. THAT is when the dam breaks. I personally cannot wait to feast on Sony ponies.


Such language! Great new addition to the website you are.

The console is getting way too much bad press for me to belive all is well. We'll know for sure after launch, but it's clear SOMETHING is up.


Not that I agree with him but calling a bunch of Gaf rumors "bad press" seems to be beyond a bit of a stretch there. Yes something is up, people who do not like MS are trying in every way they can to down play it and since that is what you want to hear, its got to be believable.


Or it's simply coming from reliable sources, therefore it's believable.

 

You guys are acting like Famous and CBOAT haven't gotten a ton of shit right, and now that Famous released said news other confirmed insiders are spilling the beans as well, hell even a journalist implied it was true.

 

LOL @ how hypocritical your post is.



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Famousmortimer speaks: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87780874&postcount=1548

 

Still haven't read anything in here... my wife just turned old (aka the same age as me) and everything is exploding at once which was my master plan all along even though I pay for my website/podcast. 

Anyway, the source I've been talking to has read this. He said...


"If anyone wants to know why I didn't report this earlier to an insider, its because I didn't think it had a chance to be there at launch.

Like others have said, these things have issues up to launch. But I was buying into the "they'll have it fixed in time" like everyone else. Then when the architecture for XBL on X1 was explained to me, and where they were at with fixing issues, and what else was waiting to pop up and I heard what others were going through, I realized that it wouldn't be fixed. It still might, but it looks bad from this angle."

And evidently "matt" verified something. I don't know who matt is and I don't know what her verified. But that's what my source says. It's fucking hard to keep up with this shit.

While I'm feeling surly. #PS4NoDRM - you guys write about it and have podcasts about it, and - yes - I remember all that said we were hopeless.

Cod 720p - Sure seemed to be a topic on podcasts this weekend. CheapyD confirmed it several days later and Gies responded to him about how it likely won't be fixed. 

Right now Ben Kuchera is telling everyone to doubt me. Most who don't follow this forum probably are. People who do follow this forum know I had the ps4 reveal, the xb1 reveal, the xb1 e3 (12/15 games!), the ps4 reveal, the only person on this forum going against cboat/etc that the PS4 wasn't launching in October, the driveclub delay, cod 720p... any now this.

So was it a long con? Did I get inside info on all of that shit so I could screw everyone at the very last second? I would almost believe that if it wasn't sony. They aren't that competent. I actually offered myself, sexually(not sexually), to Adam Boyes early last summer and he said "You aren't qualified." 

I'm not. But evidently I can still do some shit from out here. And I'm so goddamn poor Im selling off my ps4/xbox1 preorders that I made on day one that I won't get. Yeah, I'm that guy.


Anyway, when this is also correct, and we'll wait till the end of november for that to happen, if you're going to base your website/podcast on what I say you can just reach out to me. My fucking email in everywhere. I get 1900000 spam messages a day, just to keep it open to people. I think I just won a million british pounds. But the point is that if you're going to talk about what I bring up... talk to me. I'm smart-ish. Im slightly funny. I also don't make a penny off of any of this. My blog is on wordpress, the ads give them money. My podcast, like wordpress, costs money. So I spend about $300 a year doing what I do. This year I've gotten a lot of donations (thank you if you're reading!) which cover this year but not all years. Not that I think all years should be covered. I'm not great at making podcasts (or good... mediocre, maybe?).

My email is blowing up. I have about 100 comments to read - not tonight, to be truthful I started drinking heavily after posting. I'm anxious, you guys kinda scare me. But I'll read the comments. And the tweets. And if I see links in from n4g or reddit or 4chan or wherever I'll read all of that as well. I always do. Does that make me egotistical? Or paranoid? Or drunk? 

Everyone spewing bullshit at me - lets talk on November 22nd. It's a deal.



9087 said:
PS4 has superior GPU, CPU, Shaders, and RAM....

Its significantly more powerful than Xbox One


PS4 has an inferior GPU, CPU, Shaders and Ram compared to the PC.

It's significantly slower than the PC, we are talking multiples slower.

Fact of the matter is, anyone who tries to claim superiority of one console over the other in regards to performance and specifications just ends up looking silly, the PC has always made the consoles look anemic in comparison and if it really, I mean really... Was an issue you wouldn't be gaming on a console to begin with.
Seriously? Only 1080P? Common, that was last decade stuff.

Fact of the matter is, multi platforms will look relatively similar on both the Xbox One and Playstation 4, first-party games will be an entirely different ball game where I expect the Playstation 4 to have a stupidly large edge.
Developers like Naughty Dog and 343 Industries haven't ever held back in spending the extra' millions to make their games the best they can be graphically for their respective platforms.




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Daisuke72 said:
ironmanDX said:

Lol....

 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5670407

 

Now please, go away.

Funny you can post a link proving my point, yet you can't explain to me how the difference isn't noteworthy? Nice evasion, and of course you spoke on me first, and had nothing to back yourself up with and now asking me to go away? lol k.

Your bias is obvious. You call out the Xbox One for having lower res games but make no mention of the PS4's. Call the PS4 GPU weak, please? It would make life easier. Come on, do it.



9087 said:
PS4 has superior GPU, CPU, Shaders, and RAM....

Its significantly more powerful than Xbox One

Where's your source? I've heard this claim a few times before, but from all the spec sheets I can find the PS4/XB1 CPU's are identical. Actually, from what I see, the One's CPU is actually clocked slightly higher than the PS4's. :/



Trunkin said:
9087 said:
PS4 has superior GPU, CPU, Shaders, and RAM....

Its significantly more powerful than Xbox One

Where's your source? I've heard this claim a few times before, but from all the spec sheets I can find the PS4/XB1 CPU's are identical. Actually, from what I see, the One's CPU is actually clocked slightly higher than the PS4's. :/

Oh guys please don't bring specific numbers into this thread. I like posting.

Actually yeah whatever, I need to get off anyway.