Thought it was very impressive until Seece put it in perspective. It's still good for the Wii U though.

Wii u is behind the gamecube by 2.5mil units right now. It will make it back up during the next month considering GameCube didnt sell well (at all) during the holiday. Why is that rekevant? Because "turning it around" at this point would be beating 22mil units lifetime. Do i think it will turn it around? Ofcourse. It will beat GC sales. But when people compare it to the ps3 they arent thinking of it beating GC sales.

Now, the message i was trying to get across with th e post you quoted was a "lets wait for more data"

A) It's not a one or the other thing, both conditions (price and games) need to be met at the same time. ;) That's what the cube was missing. The games were few and far between and had absolutely no traction. I'll add that Nintendo is in a far different position nowadays thanks to its own success, largely due to proper marketting and greater failure on the part of its competition. So the U is in a much better position than the cube was in 100 ways.

B) We both understand that, we are just wondering why. Why the Wii made MK huge and not the cube. Well, in an answer to that, we know that the DS had both NSMB and MK. In both cases, the sales were sky high, much greater than during the advance days (for MK). 

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=mario+kart&publisher=&platform=&genre=&minSales=0&results=200

Mario Kart Super Circuit: 5m

Mario Kart DS: 22m

So even with the DS this changed, it's not unique to the Wii. That's because something changed between those two gens (GC/GBA vs Wii/DS). Nintendo's marketing had drastically improved, went through an image restructuring and reinvented itself basically. Add to that the great product branding, games (e.g. touch generation) and a proper price, and Mario Kart grew termendously. That's the answer. And the U is part of that legacy.

As for Just Dance, it's much like NSMB and Nintendogs. Seems to be one of those series people may need time to get back into. Maybe Mario Kart is the same, time will tell. But ultimately, I think that MK8 will release at a time when the combination of software on the U will make it appealing enough for people to bite, much like was the case when it released for the Wii. That's why I'm saying it's a question of momentum.

C) Nintendo's history shows that it's actually spot on. You'd be right if you said Sony's history, but for that I have another answer. As for Nintendo's history, we know how the NES and GB succeeded on very similar game libraries. There was starting to be a shift in the SNES days, the home console content started to cater to another audience, the core gamers. The NES was not. So no really Nintendo's history is very faithful to that idea that games and price make a console (portable or not) successful.

D) I will try to see where you're coming from here. Are you arguing that due to the games the U doesn't appeal to casuals, or due to marketing/branding?

E) Super Mario Galaxy sold 10m units. Is that again due to the Wii appealing to casuals? 3D Mario has a market, and it's the mainstream, much like NSMB. And even if it were the Nintendo core, Smash has sold decently to the Nintendo core since the cube days, so there is a market for them too.

Nobody didnt.  Its tracking significantally under what the gamecube version did and the anemic low levels cause the Wii U current spike (since Nintendo has had multiple game droughts).  Since Nintendo gave no actual level of the sales, who knows what context that 685% is in.  I completely understand what Seece is trying to say here. 

Nintendo fans constantly giving significance to insignificant numbers when it comes to the Wii U.

For a console that was deemed as a failure and nobody wanted it, it`s a really good sign that better times might be ahead.
I expect the bundles and the upcoming games to do wonders for Wii U.

      Because  hating Nintendo  all the time is the trendy thing.

What's insignifcant about it? It got a boost, unlike in Japan. I don't see anything wrong with it, despite the numbers being terrible.

We can celebrate a boost as many will be celebrating if the situation was the opposite.

To OP: Sales were 20 times better in Netherlands too for the Wii U. http://www.insidegamer.nl/nieuws/107545/wii-u-doet-het-goed-bij-game-mania

No people giving factual statements/reasonalbe arguements and Nintendo fans calling it hating is the trendy thing.
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Let's admit that some people just can't see Nintendo breaking through. Not saying that's Seece at all but I've seen it here on more than one occasion. Many times including your posts cerca a year ago.