| fatslob-:O said: Instead of out right attacking me while also accusing me of being another alt why don't you go and prove it with the mods. If you have nothing to contribute to the discussion then leave this thread and never come back to it. |
Never did that
Never said that
You should take your own advice
MohammadBadir said:
did you read the OP? XD VD-Dev is known for pushing Nintendo's handhelds. look at that COP the Recruit game for the DS, they made a better GTA than the GTA creators themselves! |
Yeah, but one team trying hard is not the same as all sorts of third party devs looking for exploits like they would for a home console. The market just isn't as competitive, at least in the graphics department, and especially on Nintendo hardware.
happydolphin said:
@underlined. Stop right there. So the frames mean nothing if the console can compensate. So frames alone mean nothing. Both the 3DS and PS3 drop frames but you consider that the PS3 has much better graphics. Let's just consider that a closed case. Dropped frames: inconclusive. What benchmarks do you have to support that the PSP wins in every category easily? It seems like "since it's the more powerful machine" is your a-priori. So what benchmarks and tests do you have? Also, if the PSP wins in every category easily, then how come the 3DS could perform better in graphis than the PSP? Are you talking about current graphics in today's games versus the 3DS' potential? In that case, doesn't that contradict your "since it's the more powerful machine" argument? @stereoscopic 3D. That's not what you linked me to. You linked me to Surround 3D. Also, unless you have a link to how Nintendo implemented 2D, those Nvidia benchmarks you provided are invalid. |
@underlined Once again the difference is more than enough compared to the 3DS. The 3DS is struggling to differentiate against the PSP in terms of graphics. If the graphics are not significantly better than it may not be excused for bad performance.
I didn't say the PSP wins in every category. I merely stated that the 3DS does not out the PSP completely. You mistook my statements for what it is.
Nonetheless it showed the effects of stereo 3D but only this time it's multi monitor 3D so whether it's single or multi monitor it will show the same scale of dropped performance.
S.Peelman said:
Never did that Never said that You should take your own advice |
I was on topic about it and the arguements were relevant so once again leave this thread if your not going to contribute.
| fatslob-:O said: |
1) It doesn't matter, because dropped frames means nothing in and of itself. That's undebatable because you claim the PS3 is not comparable to the PSP (much stronger), yet the PS3 also drops frames. Let's just close this one here it's pretty clear that dropped frames is not strong enough an argument as is.
2) I didn't mistake your statement, I just don't understand you, you're super unclear, vague and ambiguous. If you could be more clear maybe we'd understand each other. Your own words:
"the 3DS is mostly failing to win out the PSP in every category easily since it's the more powerful machine."
-> What is the more powerful machine, the PSP or the 3DS?
-> is the 3DS failing to beat the PSP in every category yes or no?
" The 3DS could perform better in graphics than the PSP but it's just that it didn't win in the draw distance category since it revelations had lower draw distance than alot of PSP games."
How could 3DS perform better in graphics if the PSP is the more powerful machine?
3) It's invalid, they are two very different technologies your benchmarks say nothing other than "3D causes a loss of performance" but it doesn't give any sense of relative loss of performance to regular 2D on the 3DS. I'm dropping this one whether you are or not. Your proof was inadequate.
fatslob-:O said:
I was on topic about it and the arguements were relevant so once again leave this thread if your not going to contribute. |
I can be here if I want to.
I just made an observation. Your problem if you have a problem, but I guess someone had to say it. Funny you don't even dispute my answer there, I figure you know I'm right. Oh and even if this thread wasn't already a shining example, here's another one of your tactful, direct and 'on-topic' contributions. Or at least, I think you think posts like these are just that. Took a whole 10 seconds to find it, imagine what I could dig up if I cared enough to search for a whopping five minutes. If you're going to try to enforce your will upon someone, please look at yourself first.
happydolphin said:
1) It doesn't matter, because dropped frames means nothing in and of itself. That's undebatable because you claim the PS3 is not comparable to the PSP (much stronger), yet the PS3 also drops frames. Let's just close this one here it's pretty clear that dropped frames is not strong enough an argument as is. 2) I didn't mistake your statement, I just don't understand you, you're super unclear, vague and ambiguous. If you could be more clear maybe we'd understand each other. Your own words: "the 3DS is mostly failing to win out the PSP in every category easily since it's the more powerful machine." -> What is the more powerful machine, the PSP or the 3DS? -> is the 3DS failing to beat the PSP in every category yes or no? " The 3DS could perform better in graphics than the PSP but it's just that it didn't win in the draw distance category since it revelations had lower draw distance than alot of PSP games." How could 3DS perform better in graphics if the PSP is the more powerful machine? 3) It's invalid, they are two very different technologies your benchmarks say nothing other than "3D causes a loss of performance" but it doesn't give any sense of relative loss of performance to regular 2D on the 3DS. I'm dropping this one whether you are or not. Your proof was inadequate. |
@Bold Not comparable to the 3DS. Are you even reading ? -_-
Like I said the 3DS is more powerful and I stand by that statement, however that doesn't completely equate to having completely superior graphics since the 3DS sacrified a part of the graphics for better stereoscopic 3D performance. (I hope this statement clears up some things since I'm getting tired of repeating it over and over.) -_-
If your wondering why the 3DS can perform somewhat better in graphics it has to do with efficiency but like I said before the 3DS does not out the PSP completely.
There is no such thing as proofs. There is only evidence in the physical world.
See this right here ? The 3DS still has to produce a left and right image while also producing another 2 frames for a black image on each eye. This time the shutter is located on the screen instead of the glass. Whether you need glasses or not you still have to put 4X the computational effort to produce 1 3D frame.
Arent graphics more than just visuals and image quality man^
Most core 3DS games look better than PSP games either way/ (By core I mean not shovelware.Like the shit activision publishes)
| Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said: Arent graphics more than just visuals and image quality man^ |
Graphics is nothing but image quality. (Unless ofcourse your trying to redefine the term "graphics".)
;)
Well people seem to think Graphics means physics these days
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