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fatslob-:O on 12 October 2013
CGI-Quality said:
fatslob-:O said:
CGI-Quality said:
fatslob-:O said:

You realize that the titan ultra will not be some new card, right ? It will just be the titan but only this time it will have all 15 SMX units enabled. 

Uh, yeah, I realize that. I should know, I own Titan(s).

Then it's settled. ;)

Read the edit. Of course it's settled, but they aren't the same card. Not that it would matter anyway, how one chooses to spend their money.

You are right but it's pretty much made on the same die and plus I don't see why they should do a titan ultra since the nvidia maxwell will be coming in less than 6 months likely.



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fatslob-:O on 12 October 2013
CGI-Quality said:
fatslob-:O said:
CGI-Quality said:

Read the edit. Of course it's settled, but they aren't the same card. Not that it would matter anyway, how one chooses to spend their money.

You are right but it's pretty much made on the same die and plus I don't see why they should do a titan ultra since the nvidia maxwell will be coming in less than 6 months likely.

To keep ahead of AMD, it makes complete sense. Plus it hurts nothing, given that, as you said, it's on the same die. On the other hand, that is irrelevant since they're not chasing a new crowd with the Ultra. 

Also, rumor has it the Maxwell GPU release has shifted to Q3 2014 at the earliest (which is smart, since Intel plans to release Haswell-E then).

I don't know how credible that rumor is. 



fatslob-:O on 12 October 2013
CGI-Quality said:
fatslob-:O said:
CGI-Quality said:

To keep ahead of AMD, it makes complete sense. Plus it hurts nothing, given that, as you said, it's on the same die. On the other hand, that is irrelevant since they're not chasing a new crowd with the Ultra. 

Also, rumor has it the Maxwell GPU release has shifted to Q3 2014 at the earliest (which is smart, since Intel plans to release Haswell-E then).

I don't know how credible that rumor is. 

It's as credible as the rumor that points to Q1. Neither has any weight over the other. I believe mine, however, because the new GPU is a certainty, whether it's the GTX 790 or Titan Ultra.

They're having a show for it on the 16th.

That says Q4 and not Q3 so does that mean the nvidia maxwell has been further delayed ? 



fatslob-:O on 12 October 2013
CGI-Quality said:
fatslob-:O said:
CGI-Quality said:
fatslob-:O said:

I don't know how credible that rumor is. 

It's as credible as the rumor that points to Q1. Neither has any weight over the other. I believe mine, however, because the new GPU is a certainty, whether it's the GTX 790 or Titan Ultra.

They're having a show for it on the 16th.

That says Q4 and not Q3 so does that mean the nvidia maxwell has been further delayed ? 

Q3/Q4. In that context, they mean late 2014. That is what I expect. No need to release in Q1.

Next time the node transition process will only get longer and longer so you can pretty much forget about yearly releases and start by getting used to biyearly releases of new cards from both manufacturers.



fatslob-:O on 12 October 2013
CGI-Quality said:
fatslob-:O said:
CGI-Quality said:
fatslob-:O said:

That says Q4 and not Q3 so does that mean the nvidia maxwell has been further delayed ? 

Q3/Q4. In that context, they mean late 2014. That is what I expect. No need to release in Q1.

Next time the node transition process will only get longer and longer so you can pretty much forget about yearly releases and start by getting used to biyearly releases of new cards from both manufacturers.

I'm not worried about it. Once I SLI Maxwell's strongest card next year, I won't be in the market again until Q4 2016, when Volta releases.

There will be a time where transistors will stop doubling, mark my words. ;P

Edit: Just so you know I expect volta to be at 2017 Q2. 



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Pemalite on 12 October 2013
fatslob-:O said:

The fact that when your mining with an nvidia GPU, you also lose more money than gain and I've heard reports about that at bitcoind and plus Since ASIC's are coming into the equation it will only get harder to mine therefore it will mean less coins unless your an ASIC user so it's pretty likely that mining with AMD GPU's aren't profitable anymore. ^_^ (I honestly thought that this would be common knowledge among all bitcoin users seeing as how they keep up with the latest news. -_-)


I'm not running nVidia. I'm running Triple Radeon 7970's and soon Quad R9 290X.

It's only un-profitable depending on the price of electricity and the power consumption your PC uses.
Granted as ASICS gain traction, it will be pointless for me to continue.

fatslob-:O said:

There will be a time where transistors will stop doubling, mark my words. ;P

Edit: Just so you know I expect volta to be at 2017 Q2. 


Next they will probably just build smaller dies and stack them. :)

CGI-Quality said:

To keep ahead of AMD, it makes complete sense. Plus it hurts nothing, given that, as you said, it's on the same die. On the other hand, that is irrelevant since they're not chasing a new crowd with the Ultra. 

Also, rumor has it the Maxwell GPU release has shifted to Q3 2014 at the earliest (which is smart, since Intel plans to release Haswell-E then).


I hope Haswell-E does arrive next year. Been on Sandy Bridge-E for 2 years now, I wan't more cores!




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Drakester on 12 October 2013

Nvidia because they seemto be focusing more so on the advancement but then again AMD is far cheaper and offers similar performance, its just personal choice really.



Serious_frusting on 13 October 2013

nvidia

I know you get less for your money with nvidia cards but sli is way ahead of crossfire so i went with nvidia.

Also sli ready motherboards tend to be better than crossfire motherboards.
Intel have better processors than amd. Intels processors get more juice out of nvidia cards. They are a good match compared to other combinations you could have.

nvidia+intel>>>>>>>>intel+ati,amd+ati



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fatslob-:O on 13 October 2013
Pemalite said:
fatslob-:O said:

The fact that when your mining with an nvidia GPU, you also lose more money than gain and I've heard reports about that at bitcoin and plus Since ASIC's are coming into the equation it will only get harder to mine therefore it will mean less coins unless your an ASIC user so it's pretty likely that mining with AMD GPU's aren't profitable anymore. ^_^ (I honestly thought that this would be common knowledge among all bitcoin users seeing as how they keep up with the latest news. -_-)


I'm not running nVidia. I'm running Triple Radeon 7970's and soon Quad R9 290X.

It's only un-profitable depending on the price of electricity and the power consumption your PC uses.
Granted as ASICS gain traction, it will be pointless for me to continue.

fatslob-:O said:

There will be a time where transistors will stop doubling, mark my words. ;P

Edit: Just so you know I expect volta to be at 2017 Q2. 


Next they will probably just build smaller dies and stack them. :)

CGI-Quality said:

To keep ahead of AMD, it makes complete sense. Plus it hurts nothing, given that, as you said, it's on the same die. On the other hand, that is irrelevant since they're not chasing a new crowd with the Ultra. 

Also, rumor has it the Maxwell GPU release has shifted to Q3 2014 at the earliest (which is smart, since Intel plans to release Haswell-E then).


I hope Haswell-E does arrive next year. Been on Sandy Bridge-E for 2 years now, I wan't more cores!

I know your not running with an nvidia gpu but mining is also unprofitable with an AMD GPU too because each time you mine it only gets harder and harder to make profit since the complexity of mining itself increases too. 

The problem with that though is how will they solve the issue of heat. 



Pemalite on 13 October 2013
Serious_frusting said:

Also sli ready motherboards tend to be better than crossfire motherboards.


It's a good thing pretty much every motherboard sold today supports both Crossfire and SLI.
It's not like a few years ago where you had to go and check to see whether the motherboard supported SLI or Crossfire.

fatslob-:O said:

I know your not running with an nvidia gpu but mining is also unprofitable with an AMD GPU too because each time you mine it only gets harder and harder to make profit since the complexity of mining itself increases too. 

The problem with that though is how will they solve the issue of heat. 

I'm aware. Today as it stands, I actually make a profit, having one of the best Power Supply units on the market with it's high-efficiency helps a great deal in that regard.




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