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kupomogli said:
tbone51 said:


You said in a year right? thats why i listed all them, also everybody has their own opinion to wat games they want but the mass that play nintendo want SSB/MK8/X/Metroid/Zelda/SM3DW and some would want Bayo2/Sonic LW/Pokemon Fighter/DK! So Yeahhh! Alot of games will have just as good Quality as a ps4/X1 some even better!

That's debatable, but how can one debate when they don't play the competitors games.  I say this towards "most" Nintendo fans who don't play anything other than Nintendo games.  Mario Kart 7 is a good game to a Nintendo fan, but has that same fan played comparable racing titles.  They could think Wipeout 2048 is the best racing game ever but because it's not Nintendo they haven't played it and have no interest.

tbone51 said:

Anddd? Yes we know WiiU sucks in sales now. So did PS3/Vita/GCN. Its been almost a year, never sell anything short or you might mistake it like people did with the 3DS (Which has Great Sales for a Dead Handheld Market Generation )

PS3 is the only one that's ended up selling well.  Most people will say it's too early to tell for the Vita, but I'm of the opinion that it'll get games here and there, but otherwise, the system is dead.


 Dead= No Sales at all. WiiU/Vita are far from dead, Why would you support a dead device? Sony/Nintendo going to make a comeback 2014 you'll see lol



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kupomogli said:
Mnementh said:

PDF said:

Now its you who do not seem to understand the argument.   Simply answer this question.  Gun against your head, which console is more likely to get a R* game in the future? 

PC. Yes, you said console, but consoles are not all platforms for games.

I don't say WiiU is more likely, that you seem to construct out of my argument. I only say, it is not certain that it will come to both consoles (PS4/XBOne).

Here's something that might interest you.

Games this gen from Rockstar that aren't on PC.

Red Dead Redemption
Midnight Club Los Angeles
Max Payne 3 
Grand Theft Auto 5
LA Noire (Rockstar collaboration.)

Games this gen from Rockstar that are on PC.

Grand Theft Auto 4

I don't know where you got your information but Max Payne 3 and LA Noire are actually available on PC and GTA5 will most likely get a PC release next year.



tbone51 said:


Yes it is debatable, I love me some  Nintendo Games but i kno other games as well, i'll respect which is better. I liked FF/KH and think those games (Not FF 11-13 since i didnt play those) are better than some RPGs that nintendo has but Games like Chrono Trigger/SM Legend of Seven Stars/Paper Mario+TTYD are better! X looks more impressive than any ps4/X1 i seen but thats my opinon obviously (i not talking graphcs so pls dont mention it). I love Halo, GoW is bad ass but maybe Bayo2 might be better than GoW4! Nobody can judge yet of course. Name 1 PS4/X1 game tht be more fun to play with your family/friends with you (locally) than MK8/SSB4/SM3DW? Exactly

Currently no family game I can think of that can be locally played with anyone that's worth getting for the PS4, but there's always the potential for a future LBP. 

What about Kinect Sports Rivals on the Xbox One?   Since the majority of most families don't play video games, I'm sure they'd enjoy yet another Wii Sports knock off more than any of the Nintendo games you listed.

As for your RPG list.  I'm a huge RPG fan, so I could point you in the direction of many games better than the ones you listed, including Chrono Trigger(not saying it's not one of the best ever made though.)  I'm interested in X, but haven't played it so not going to say whether or not it's better than what I have played, but will say "probably not."  The RPGs you named  seems mostly limited to Nintendo consoles though.



tbone51 said:
TheJimbo1234 said:
Mr Khan said:
TheJimbo1234 said:

Because I want next gen features and a console that will last 4 years...not one where people are asking if it will last 6 months.

Also to say that the WiiU has next gen graphics is a flat out lie and you know it. It does not support all dx 11 features and the memory pool is too small to be next gen.

The hyperbole here is making my head hurt.


Can you tell me how many shops have stop stocking the WiiU....
Now how common is that for a console this new?

Anddd? Yes we know WiiU sucks in sales now. So did PS3/Vita/GCN. Its been almost a year, never sell anything short or you might mistake it like people did with the 3DS (Which has Great Sales for a Dead Handheld Market Generation )

PS3 never even got close to selling as bad as the wii U on a weekly basis, for the vita and gamecube they are not really helping the point you are trying to make unless if you think the wii U selling around 20mill is a great success



Bet reminder: I bet with Tboned51 that Splatoon won't reach the 1 million shipped mark by the end of 2015. I win if he loses and I lose if I lost.

cablebox said:
happydolphin said:
cablebox said:
happydolphin said:
cablebox said:

Price ( since when pc is cheaper than console), big third party and first party exclusives not making it to the pc (exemple gta v for this gen), not everyone is comfortable updating drivers, finding missing dll files. pc get better third party support from small indie devs but not from the major ones

For every GTA V there is a Skyrim.

As for price, if you start off with tech comparable to PS4/xbone internals, you can pull it off at the price of 500$, without having to pay for online fees. (Not to mention the games are cheaper)

As for DLLs and ease of use, that's a different argument. In response to ClassicGamingWizz, he mentioned he wanted pretty graphics and good 3rd party support. DLLs shouldn't be an issue to him unless he's BSing.

wut?? skyrim sold better on consoles, 500$ pcs builds never include a monitor, OS or even mouse and keyboard

Are you suggesting that Skyrim was a better game on the PS360? Are you suggesting that most people don't have a monitor, mouse and keyboard? The OS point will be moot in a few months time with SteamOS. Even then it's moot, as most people don't bother getting a legit OS if it's not included.

Lol nice argument, your point of why pc gaming is cheaper is the fact that you need to have parts in advence, that are ofcourse not included in the total price, and you need to steal the OS untill the glorious steam OS is released lawl

The same is true for consoles. Can you play consoles without a television? 



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kupomogli said:
tbone51 said:


Yes it is debatable, I love me some  Nintendo Games but i kno other games as well, i'll respect which is better. I liked FF/KH and think those games (Not FF 11-13 since i didnt play those) are better than some RPGs that nintendo has but Games like Chrono Trigger/SM Legend of Seven Stars/Paper Mario+TTYD are better! X looks more impressive than any ps4/X1 i seen but thats my opinon obviously (i not talking graphcs so pls dont mention it). I love Halo, GoW is bad ass but maybe Bayo2 might be better than GoW4! Nobody can judge yet of course. Name 1 PS4/X1 game tht be more fun to play with your family/friends with you (locally) than MK8/SSB4/SM3DW? Exactly

Currently no family game I can think of that can be locally played with anyone that's worth getting for the PS4, but there's always the potential for a future LBP. 

What about Kinect Sports Rivals on the Xbox One?   Since the majority of most families don't play video games, I'm sure they'd enjoy yet another Wii Sports knock off more than any of the Nintendo games you listed.

As for your RPG list.  I'm a huge RPG fan, so I could point you in the direction of many games better than the ones you listed, including Chrono Trigger(not saying it's not one of the best ever made though.)  I'm interested in X, but haven't played it so not going to say whether or not it's better than what I have played, but will say "probably not."  The RPGs you named  seems mostly limited to Nintendo consoles though.


Well if you like RPGS you either had a nintendo console or a PS1.

PS1>PS3 in RPG content. To this day.

 

Your 3DS threads are funny you prefer the Vita yet the 3DS has way more RPG's

You still need both if you want to play the well rounded divison. (Tales Reboots and Phantasy Star and the other one)



Cheebee said:
Noctis23 said:

 

Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
^And if the majority of those can be played elsewhere?

Maybe, but we know for sure the Wii U won't have: Metal Gear Solid, The Witcher 3, The Divison, Destiny, Battlefield, any major sports titles, Final Fantasy 15, Kingdom Hearts 3, Dragon Age: Inqusition, Lightning Returns, and so on

We also know for sure PS4/X1 won't have  Mario 3D World, DK Country TF, Mario Kart 8, Smash Bros., X, Bayonetta 2, Zelda, and so on.

His point was there's a lot of 3rd party games not coming to Wii U, no idea why you posted Nintendo 1st party games.



chapset said:
tbone51 said:
TheJimbo1234 said:
Mr Khan said:
TheJimbo1234 said:

Because I want next gen features and a console that will last 4 years...not one where people are asking if it will last 6 months.

Also to say that the WiiU has next gen graphics is a flat out lie and you know it. It does not support all dx 11 features and the memory pool is too small to be next gen.

The hyperbole here is making my head hurt.


Can you tell me how many shops have stop stocking the WiiU....
Now how common is that for a console this new?

Anddd? Yes we know WiiU sucks in sales now. So did PS3/Vita/GCN. Its been almost a year, never sell anything short or you might mistake it like people did with the 3DS (Which has Great Sales for a Dead Handheld Market Generation )

PS3 never even got close to selling as bad as the wii U on a weekly basis, for the vita and gamecube they are not really helping the point you are trying to make unless if you think the wii U selling around 20mill is a great success

OMG, my point was just saying anything can turn around, i know WiiU selling worse 20mil isn't a great success but its better than 3.5mil right? PS3 sold 80mil but how much money was made on it? 3DS might be selling alot but it lost  a ton of money on hardware the first year. So 20mil might be bad in the eyes of the public but if it made a profit then yes its a great success. 30mil would be a greater success, 40mil be an even greater success and so on. 



Daisuke72 said:
Cheebee said:
Noctis23 said:

 

Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
^And if the majority of those can be played elsewhere?

Maybe, but we know for sure the Wii U won't have: Metal Gear Solid, The Witcher 3, The Divison, Destiny, Battlefield, any major sports titles, Final Fantasy 15, Kingdom Hearts 3, Dragon Age: Inqusition, Lightning Returns, and so on

We also know for sure PS4/X1 won't have  Mario 3D World, DK Country TF, Mario Kart 8, Smash Bros., X, Bayonetta 2, Zelda, and so on.

His point was there's a lot of 3rd party games not coming to Wii U, no idea why you posted Nintendo 1st party games.

The counter point is that those games arent here yet. So why not just buy your secondary console first and wait for the games you're listing that you want to play when they get released. You'll probably find better deals on the console then than at launch without any of the growing pains that stem from a launch.

The WiiU on the other hand is a year old now and you can get some sweet bundles with it and Black Friday deals off it. Unless you GOTTA have that Killzone immediatly.



Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
Daisuke72 said:
Cheebee said:
Noctis23 said:

 

Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
^And if the majority of those can be played elsewhere?

Maybe, but we know for sure the Wii U won't have: Metal Gear Solid, The Witcher 3, The Divison, Destiny, Battlefield, any major sports titles, Final Fantasy 15, Kingdom Hearts 3, Dragon Age: Inqusition, Lightning Returns, and so on

We also know for sure PS4/X1 won't have  Mario 3D World, DK Country TF, Mario Kart 8, Smash Bros., X, Bayonetta 2, Zelda, and so on.

His point was there's a lot of 3rd party games not coming to Wii U, no idea why you posted Nintendo 1st party games.

The counter point is that those games arent here yet. So why not just buy your secondary console first and wait for the games you're listing that you want to play when they get released. You'll probably find better deals on the console then than at launch without any of the growing pains that stem from a launch.

The WiiU on the other hand is a year old now and you can get some sweet bundles with it and Black Friday deals off it. Unless you GOTTA have that Killzone immediatly.

Because 

 

A. I don't have the money right now.

 

B. I'd like to wait to see if it drops in price again.

 

C. When X releases I'll be able to buy cheaper games.

 

D. I don't have time for it.