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Machiavellian said:
Cubedramirez said:
Machiavellian said:
Cubedramirez said:
The power of the Cloud!

*cue CSI yeeaaaahhh sound*


I understand this is the running joke but after see it a number of time when people know the game is not using any cloud tech just gets more annoying then anything else.


Every Microsoft fanboy keeps pulling the cloud out everytime it's made completely clear the console itself is not on par with the PS4. The GPU isn't as powerful, but if you add the power of the cloud it's a billion times faster than the Saturn Five rocket engine! The Ram isn't as high end, but if you add the power of the cloud it has enough memory on board to house every human thought created since the dawn of time!! The processor isn't as powerful, but if you add the power of the cloud this thing could last for decades and still be a ultra high end home console!!

It's funny, it will always be funny, because of the...

CLOUD!

YEEEAAAAHHHHH!

Well, I can say its funny to you.  Context is always king.  If the game was using the cloud then you can make such statements.  Since it is not, it just look like a chain of poor jokes where it really does not apply.  Either way, somewhere down the line I am sure we will get some good examples if the cloud can improve graphica and system performance.


Why wouldn't a game use the cloud on a system designed for the awesomeness of the cloud? Somewhere down the line we'll see the "improvement" and we'll all reply with 'meh'.

The system is nothing more than a cable box that plugs into my cable box which adds access to a fanatasy football system and a Halo TV show from a company that didn't even have enough conviction to stay the course and keep the only unique features about it because of internet butt hurt regarding online confirmation and game sharing. I know I am being harsh here but the system itself is sub par without the use of the cloud which itself is a theory on what it can bring to the table and that's the single most important issue. 

Microsoft made the Chrome Book for consoles, unless you have internet access, have fun with our over priced cable box.

'meh'



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who cares? The game wouldn't be any better with the most amazing graphics ever.



ethomaz said:

dane007 said:

then why is there a need for two threads if one has evreything in it? isn't that a repetition lol.  Yea do that . I thinkwhat he meantwas that there are trying t oreach 1080p for teh final release .

Two threads?

This thread is about "Marious (Ryse) Polygon Count Downgrade from 150K to 85K" and CryTek confirmed that... /end

The other thread is about the D.I.C.E. 2013 presentation where you have all that article is saying because CryTek talked about that in this event yesterday.

Two differents subject.

About the 1080p... his twitter or confirm or deny... it is subjective... but trying for the final release is not what he said... for now everybody asked it about that and he started to remove the tweets.


True he didn't say it but its a possibility but to deny the possibility will only make you more a fanboy towards sony. Whether its true or no t, well we just have to wait till it comes out right ? :)



ethomaz said:

Machiavellian said:

Yeah, you should read the article if you are going to use it as proof.  I did.  There is no hint, the article says and only says animation.  Nothing about poly count or even just the character alone.  Context is a big issue with me when someone makes a statement.  Either you stay in context or you have no proof of your claim besides an opinion.

I already even quoted the text that says that from that link in this thread... if you can't read... sorry but I won't help you.

I read perfectly well, I am questioning your ability to understand context.  You make a claim that Crytek stated they have the most advance character, and you use the poly count as a reference.  The link you provided states, they have the most advance animation.  The two are not the same.  If you are stating the two are the same then it is I who is sorry.  I understand if English is not your native language but even in other languages context makes a big difference.

You made a claim but still have not backed it up.  Now it appears you are trying to be above your statement.  If you cannot find a link that supports your claim then just say so and move on.  Throwing out fluff statements will not support your claim.  You have not proven your claim and thats pretty much where I stand.  You can just ignore this post if you cannot find proof and I will let it drop.



dane007 said:

True he didn't say it but its a possibility but to deny the possibility will only make you more a fanboy towards sony. Whether its true or no t, well we just have to wait till it comes out right ? :)

I'm denying the possibility... I'm saying there are not trying 1080p for the final build... if he is confirming 1080p is because the build showed yesterday already runs at 1080p.



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Machiavellian said:

I read perfectly well, I am questioning your ability to understand context.  You make a claim that Crytek stated they have the most advance character, and you use the poly count as a reference.  The link you provided states, they have the most advance animation.  The two are not the same.  If you are stating the two are the same then it is I who is sorry.  I understand if English is not your native language but even in other languages context makes a big difference.

You made a claim but still have not backed it up.  Now it appears you are trying to be above your statement.  If you cannot find a link that supports your claim then just say so and move on.  Throwing out fluff statements will not support your claim.  You have not proven your claim and thats pretty much where I stand.  You can just ignore this post if you cannot find proof and I will let it drop.

The linke says what I quoted here (I used this source to make my quote)... it is not about animation part lol.

Again I already proved my clain true in on of the first post in this thread with the quote to that article... I won't do that again just becasue you can't read a article... I refuse to make the work two times.



"Our main character, Marius Titus, is possibly the most detailed main protagonist in any game. Our character models are incredibly detailed, with some of the most advanced facial animations ever seen in video games. Our environments are gorgeous. We have really solid combat mechanics coupled with our unique cinematic executions that will really make you feel connected to the battle. All of this is wrapped in an intricate and intriguing story of revenge, featuring an unforgettable cast of historical characters!”

ethomasz he never says what you say he says.



Cubedramirez said:
Machiavellian said:
Well, I can say its funny to you.  Context is always king.  If the game was using the cloud then you can make such statements.  Since it is not, it just look like a chain of poor jokes where it really does not apply.  Either way, somewhere down the line I am sure we will get some good examples if the cloud can improve graphica and system performance.


Why wouldn't a game use the cloud on a system designed for the awesomeness of the cloud? Somewhere down the line we'll see the "improvement" and we'll all reply with 'meh'.

The system is nothing more than a cable box that plugs into my cable box which adds access to a fanatasy football system and a Halo TV show from a company that didn't even have enough conviction to stay the course and keep the only unique features about it because of internet butt hurt regarding online confirmation and game sharing. I know I am being harsh here but the system itself is sub par without the use of the cloud which itself is a theory on what it can bring to the table and that's the single most important issue. 

Microsoft made the Chrome Book for consoles, unless you have internet access, have fun with our over priced cable box.

'meh'

One good reason is that MS stated the 300 servers would not be up until after the X1 launch.  Games that are in development for over a year that were not designed for the cloud would not change their code to support it on release.  Do you think these games started development when MS announced the X1.  

As for the what the X1 is, its many different things. Did you know that the 360 does onDemand from most of the big cable providers.  Yes, this means you never have to hook up your cable box to the X1 for your cable content because those services will also be on the X1.  The cable pass through is MS providing a way for people that already have cable which is millions to use their service without trying to upstage the cable companies.  

The cloud did not leave the X1, just the requirement for always access.  Also the term cloud means different things depending on what type of cloud service you are talking about.  This is the confusion that most people have about the term cloud.  Here are the different services that a cloud platform provides

Saas - System as a service

Paas - Platform as a service

Iaas - Infrastructure as a service.

Each service does something unique for its environment.  MS Azure supports all of those services and MS is providing those services to the X1.  I am not going to go into detail on each one as I have done this already.  You can google each one to see how they scope to the XBL platform.  Lets just say that MS has the capability to provide services like streaming your music and movies, hosting dedicated servers for all developers on X1, providing a development platform called Orleans for distributed cloud based applications (that would be your cloud base compute MS was touting about).

As for the system being subpar without the cloud, I think the jury is still deciding on that point.  I know I have not made a decision yet and will probably just wait until the dust settle before deciding on any of these consoles.  If anything I was thinking of taking that money and upgrade my PC.  Who know, maybe a steammachine is in my future depedning on how solid Valve gameplan is.



Yeesh, with new AMD gpus about to come out for the PC which look to be dirt cheap and super powerful, you don't want to demo the brand new super expensive console to be doing far less.



MB1025 said:

"Our main character, Marius Titus, is possibly the most detailed main protagonist in any game.Our character models are incredibly detailed, with some of the most advanced facial animations ever seen in video games. Our environments are gorgeous. We have really solid combat mechanics coupled with our unique cinematic executions that will really make you feel connected to the battle. All of this is wrapped in an intricate and intriguing story of revenge, featuring an unforgettable cast of historical characters!”

ethomasz he never says what you say he says.

Thanks.

Now look what my original post