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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global HW +SW Up! 21st September 2013 (GTA V Week) ~336k PS3 ~180K X360

ktay95 on 26 September 2013
oniyide said:
ktay95 said:
pezus said:
ktay95 said:
chapset said:
Chandler said:
I'll just focus on the fact that the Wii U version of Rayman Legends is the only version that's still in the charts. You made a mistake Ubisoft and your Smash Bros. spot for Rayman has been revoked.

63k on wii U

54k on ps3

50k on 360

what a dumb move really, they'ed be happier with just the 63k

yep coz by now the WiiU version wouldnt have surpassed that had it released in Feb when we had nothing to play on WiiU. Instead they wait until we have a heap of 1st party games and release it then. And they still could have had a PS3 version, it was MS policies that stopped the early WiiU release

A heap of 1st party games? They certainly aren't stealing sales away right now. The userbase is now bigger and the release was almost coupled with a price cut. See, both points of view can look right.

Yes, theres Mario, DK, Zelda, Pikmin, Wii Fit, Wii Sports, Wii Party, W101 (kinda). And while some are unreleased that dosent stop people from not buying other games waiting for them. People do have budgets. And Ubi could easily have continued selling the game now with the larger install base and the price cut, its not like they cant ship more copies. IMO it was a poor choice, but thats just my opinion not fact. They could have released a Directors Cut version later on PS360 if they wanted, put the extras as DLC on WiiU

thats cool here i was thinking you had access to some alternate dimension where they did release in Feb and you were sure that it would have had better sales.

and FYI if they did some special edition of Rayman for PS360 you could bet your ass their would be people whining even harder than they are now.

lol, sometimes I wonder if people here have access to these alternate dimension machines. And who cares about whining fans after the sale. ITS ALL ABOUT THE MOOLAH =) but if fans actually whined because they got the game months and months early and missed out on say a some levels which could be purchased as DLC they have problems.



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tiffac on 26 September 2013

Holy Smokes! This is only US and UK and look at those GTAV numbers.



chapset on 26 September 2013
Chandler said:
chapset said:
ktay95 said:
chapset said:
Chandler said:
I'll just focus on the fact that the Wii U version of Rayman Legends is the only version that's still in the charts. You made a mistake Ubisoft and your Smash Bros. spot for Rayman has been revoked.

63k on wii U

54k on ps3

50k on 360

what a dumb move really, they'ed be happier with just the 63k

yep coz by now the WiiU version wouldnt have surpassed that had it released in Feb when we had nothing to play on WiiU. Instead they wait until we have a heap of 1st party games and release it then. And they still could have had a PS3 version, it was MS policies that stopped the early WiiU release

how blind can you be to not see they are getting 2/3 of their sales on the two other platform? what ever it would have done Ltd on the wii U add 2/3 of that and that's what it will do now that's it's a multiplat. how dumb of Ubisoft to want more money. They should do like they did with zombie U and lose money so the wii U fans can be happy right?

 

Except that they dumped seven more months of development time into it. Seven more months of develoment costs and salary. Seven months in which Ancels team could have worked on another project (Hello BG&E2 and goodbye). Seven months the game could have been on the market by now, releasing in a better situation on a platform that didn't have a significant release in months. Not to mention that they alienated a bunch of people with how they timed and handled the whole multiplatform/delay situation.


It's a shame that your school knowledge of subtraction and addition isn't quite enough to accurately display interactions between events in the real world.

resulting in petty insults lol, how sad



Bet reminder: I bet with Tboned51 that Splatoon won't reach the 1 million shipped mark by the end of 2015. I win if he loses and I lose if I lost.

Chandler on 26 September 2013
pezus said:
ktay95 said:
chapset said:
Chandler said:
I'll just focus on the fact that the Wii U version of Rayman Legends is the only version that's still in the charts. You made a mistake Ubisoft and your Smash Bros. spot for Rayman has been revoked.

63k on wii U

54k on ps3

50k on 360

what a dumb move really, they'ed be happier with just the 63k

yep coz by now the WiiU version wouldnt have surpassed that had it released in Feb when we had nothing to play on WiiU. Instead they wait until we have a heap of 1st party games and release it then. And they still could have had a PS3 version, it was MS policies that stopped the early WiiU release

A heap of 1st party games? They certainly aren't stealing sales away right now. The userbase is now bigger and the release was almost coupled with a price cut. See, both points of view can look right.


But there are Wii U owners who didn't buy Rayman Legends because they rather spent the money on GTA V. But how is that possible you ask, GTA V isn't on Wii U? It's magic, my friend, real life magic.



Ongoing bet with think-man: He wins if MH4 releases in any shape or form on PSV in 2013, I win if it doesn't.

Chandler on 26 September 2013
chapset said:
Chandler said:
chapset said:
ktay95 said:
chapset said:
Chandler said:
I'll just focus on the fact that the Wii U version of Rayman Legends is the only version that's still in the charts. You made a mistake Ubisoft and your Smash Bros. spot for Rayman has been revoked.

63k on wii U

54k on ps3

50k on 360

what a dumb move really, they'ed be happier with just the 63k

yep coz by now the WiiU version wouldnt have surpassed that had it released in Feb when we had nothing to play on WiiU. Instead they wait until we have a heap of 1st party games and release it then. And they still could have had a PS3 version, it was MS policies that stopped the early WiiU release

how blind can you be to not see they are getting 2/3 of their sales on the two other platform? what ever it would have done Ltd on the wii U add 2/3 of that and that's what it will do now that's it's a multiplat. how dumb of Ubisoft to want more money. They should do like they did with zombie U and lose money so the wii U fans can be happy right?

 

Except that they dumped seven more months of development time into it. Seven more months of develoment costs and salary. Seven months in which Ancels team could have worked on another project (Hello BG&E2 and goodbye). Seven months the game could have been on the market by now, releasing in a better situation on a platform that didn't have a significant release in months. Not to mention that they alienated a bunch of people with how they timed and handled the whole multiplatform/delay situation.


It's a shame that your school knowledge of subtraction and addition isn't quite enough to accurately display interactions between events in the real world.

resulting in petty insults lol, how sad


It's not an insult if it's the truth. You refuted my point by simple subtraction. Or you tried to. But I guess this conversation is over if this is all you have to say.



Ongoing bet with think-man: He wins if MH4 releases in any shape or form on PSV in 2013, I win if it doesn't.

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Lyrikalstylez on 26 September 2013

Wonderful 101 is a flop, who wasn't surprised.......I'm just hoping platinum games starts supporting ps3 or 360 and next gen consoles Before they go out of business!

Gta5 is huge



Yakuzaice on 26 September 2013
JWeinCom said:

People can expect whatever they want, but expecting Wii U sales to double over 2 days is kind of silly in my estimation.  It would probably hit that with a full week, but not with two days of sales.  Systems don't sell without big games.  A price cut is nice, but look at the Vita and what that price cut did.  A price cut without software is meaningless.  You need a price cut + marketing + games.  The Wii U has the price cut, the games are coming, and now it's just a matter of marketing.  I think the Wii U will sell well in the long run, but if you're expecting a huge boost this week, than prepare to eat some crow.  Of course if I'm wrong, I'll gladly do the same. 

It had Wind Waker HD last week which probably has the highest system selling potential until Mario in two months (I can see Wii Party selling more SW units than WW, but by virtue of being dirt cheap with a Wii remote).  I'm not sure why you are saying it was without software.  If Wii U sales are going to continue to languish until the end of November, then what was the point of the price cut.  The 3DS more than doubled in the US when OoT 3D released.  Granted it had more than two days, but it also didn't have a price cut and It was also doubling from a higher baseline.  The Wii U has certainly gone up more than 3-4k in the past with just software, no bundle or price drop.

Now with that said, the people predicting 50k+ obviously weren't being realistic.  However acting like 3-4k was to be expected isn't very realistic either.  Regardless, we'll need to wait till NPD to get accurate numbers.



chapset on 26 September 2013
Chandler said:
chapset said:
Chandler said:
chapset said:
ktay95 said:
chapset said:
Chandler said:
I'll just focus on the fact that the Wii U version of Rayman Legends is the only version that's still in the charts. You made a mistake Ubisoft and your Smash Bros. spot for Rayman has been revoked.

63k on wii U

54k on ps3

50k on 360

what a dumb move really, they'ed be happier with just the 63k

yep coz by now the WiiU version wouldnt have surpassed that had it released in Feb when we had nothing to play on WiiU. Instead they wait until we have a heap of 1st party games and release it then. And they still could have had a PS3 version, it was MS policies that stopped the early WiiU release

how blind can you be to not see they are getting 2/3 of their sales on the two other platform? what ever it would have done Ltd on the wii U add 2/3 of that and that's what it will do now that's it's a multiplat. how dumb of Ubisoft to want more money. They should do like they did with zombie U and lose money so the wii U fans can be happy right?

 

Except that they dumped seven more months of development time into it. Seven more months of develoment costs and salary. Seven months in which Ancels team could have worked on another project (Hello BG&E2 and goodbye). Seven months the game could have been on the market by now, releasing in a better situation on a platform that didn't have a significant release in months. Not to mention that they alienated a bunch of people with how they timed and handled the whole multiplatform/delay situation.


It's a shame that your school knowledge of subtraction and addition isn't quite enough to accurately display interactions between events in the real world.

resulting in petty insults lol, how sad


It's not an insult if it's the truth. You refuted my point by simple subtraction. Or you tried to. But I guess this conversation is over if this is all you have to say.

arguing with you is pointless, your attachement to your favorite console is to strong for you to see points objectively, I would have a better chance convincing a pig than you, good day



Bet reminder: I bet with Tboned51 that Splatoon won't reach the 1 million shipped mark by the end of 2015. I win if he loses and I lose if I lost.

sully1311 on 26 September 2013

Looking at the graphs, massive boosts for PS3 and 360 HW

~340k PS3
~300k X360



sully1311 on 26 September 2013

Weekly Hardware Chart 21st September 2013

PlatformN. AmericaEuropeJapanGlobal
91,426 178,423 10,904 335,789
156,244 121,981 676 300,861
32,133 38,530 168,359 249,321
21,314 5,233 5,503 33,964
991 12,619 4,456 31,032
8,015 10,962 5,218 26,676
9,052 7,152 1,014 18,996
6,468 612 23 7,360