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curl-6 on 21 September 2013
snowdog said:
Bayonetta 2 is going to be 720p at 60fps. And it's a considerable step up from anything on the PS3 and 360 so far, all you need to do is look at the polygons pushed during the Gomorrah boss fight with the skyscrapers still in the background at 60fps without screen tearing to see that.

Previous gen consoles may be able to manage reproducing that but at sub-HD, probably less polygons and a shitload of screen tearing.

That scene is damn impressive, even in online vids.

The foreground action is awesome enough, but that cityscape stretching so far into the distance, with so many tightly packed skyscrapers, really shows the advantage of having more than twice as much available RAM.



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FrancisNobleman on 21 September 2013
fatslob-:O said:
DevilRising said:
Sorry folks, but there is literally zero argument against this sentiment.

Look at Shadow of the Colossus. Weakest hardware then gen, yet one of the best looking games. Case closed.

Sorry but that position goes to chronicles of riddick escape from butcher bay. (Console wise ofcourse.)

I promise not to report you both if you never disrespect Okami again like that.

you're free to go... for now.



fatslob-:O on 21 September 2013

snowdog said:
Bayonetta 2 is going to be 720p at 60fps. And it's a considerable step up from anything on the PS3 and 360 so far, all you need to do is look at the polygons pushed during the Gomorrah boss fight with the skyscrapers still in the background at 60fps without screen tearing to see that.

Previous gen consoles may be able to manage reproducing that but at sub-HD, probably less polygons and a shitload of screen tearing.

 

Err you realize that bayonetta 1 was at 720p at 60fps on the xbox 360.



PigPen on 21 September 2013
Mnementh said:
PigPen said:
Just can't wait to see their exclusive for the Wii U.

http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/BsCOBkKB_WEFVUSP8zaX00Ua8pqIuaO2


That's already out on the eshop.  Shin'en is making a exclusive game for the Wii U that haven't been announced yet.



curl-6 on 21 September 2013
fatslob-:O said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
dahuman said:

No, he talks shit all day about things he doesn't understand and quotes speculations instead of confirmed sources, we've covered that many times already. Just keep in mind that if you ignore something long enough, maybe it'd get bored and go away.


lol i talk  shit taht always right, even my sales prediction on the wiiu was dead on since last december, and by the way there are some new quotes from developers about the wiiu hardare saying it par with currentgen, slightly better. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=168707&page=1# and a developer from neogaf also commented on the hardawre saying its very close to currentgen interms of performance.


You at the start of the year: "Multiplatform games will continue to look worse on Wii U."

Need for Speed Most Wanted U comes out shortly afterwards, looks better, and runs smoother on Wii U.

People here seriously starting to get defensive/offensive about hardware ?

Nothing wrong with a nice healthy debate.



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fatslob-:O on 21 September 2013
curl-6 said:
fatslob-:O said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
dahuman said:

No, he talks shit all day about things he doesn't understand and quotes speculations instead of confirmed sources, we've covered that many times already. Just keep in mind that if you ignore something long enough, maybe it'd get bored and go away.


lol i talk  shit taht always right, even my sales prediction on the wiiu was dead on since last december, and by the way there are some new quotes from developers about the wiiu hardare saying it par with currentgen, slightly better. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=168707&page=1# and a developer from neogaf also commented on the hardawre saying its very close to currentgen interms of performance.


You at the start of the year: "Multiplatform games will continue to look worse on Wii U."

Need for Speed Most Wanted U comes out shortly afterwards, looks better, and runs smoother on Wii U.

People here seriously starting to get defensive/offensive about hardware ?

Nothing wrong with a nice healthy debate.

LOL more like roast if you ask me.



curl-6 on 21 September 2013
fatslob-:O said:

snowdog said:
Bayonetta 2 is going to be 720p at 60fps. And it's a considerable step up from anything on the PS3 and 360 so far, all you need to do is look at the polygons pushed during the Gomorrah boss fight with the skyscrapers still in the background at 60fps without screen tearing to see that.

Previous gen consoles may be able to manage reproducing that but at sub-HD, probably less polygons and a shitload of screen tearing.

 

Err you realize that bayonetta 1 was at 720p at 60fps on the xbox 360.

And it made smaller and less detailed environments, and simpler lighting, shading, and visual effects compared to what we've seen of Bayonetta 2.



fatslob-:O on 21 September 2013
curl-6 said:
fatslob-:O said:

snowdog said:
Bayonetta 2 is going to be 720p at 60fps. And it's a considerable step up from anything on the PS3 and 360 so far, all you need to do is look at the polygons pushed during the Gomorrah boss fight with the skyscrapers still in the background at 60fps without screen tearing to see that.

Previous gen consoles may be able to manage reproducing that but at sub-HD, probably less polygons and a shitload of screen tearing.

 

Err you realize that bayonetta 1 was at 720p at 60fps on the xbox 360.

And it made smaller and less detailed environments, and simpler lighting, shading, and visual effects compared to what we've seen of Bayonetta 2.

Meh.



curl-6 on 21 September 2013
fatslob-:O said:
curl-6 said:

Nothing wrong with a nice healthy debate.

LOL more like roast if you ask me.

Roasting who, ninjablade?

If he posts as outrageously as he does, it's only natural he'll get a lot of people disagreeing with him.



curl-6 on 21 September 2013
fatslob-:O said:
curl-6 said:
fatslob-:O said:

Err you realize that bayonetta 1 was at 720p at 60fps on the xbox 360.

And it made smaller and less detailed environments, and simpler lighting, shading, and visual effects compared to what we've seen of Bayonetta 2.

Meh.

The technical difference is quite distinct. Bayonetta 1 is one of my favourite games of the 7th gen, but Wii U's superior RAM and GPU really show when you compare it to Bayo 2, even in the latter's unfinished state.