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Euphoria14 on 20 September 2013
pezus said:
Euphoria14 said:
sales2099 said:
Pretty much confirmed that neither X1 or PS4 can be placed vertically.

PS4 has a vertical stand. Sony always displays it vertical.

Even the official box art for the console shows it vertical. What you just said is absolutely false.

Cut him some slack, he hasn't been fully researching Playstation since he left youtube (which was before they even revealed the PS4!)

I will cut him some slack. He admtted he made a mistake.

Sales has always been alright in my book.



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kirby007 on 20 September 2013
pezus said:
kowenicki said:
pezus said:
kowenicki said:
pezus said:
What's with this guy and thinking there are less than 14 countries in Europe? ("most European markets")


Huh?  How does saying "launching in most european markets" become he thinks there are less than 14 countries in Europe?  You feeling ok today?

But yeah, perhaps he should have said launching in the important European markets to clarify. 

One is launching in 7 European countries, as far as I know. Correct me if I'm wrong. 

Majority means >50%, which means 7 would be >50% of countries in Europe, which means 100%<14


Like I said.... perhaps he should have clarified with important countries (markets).  Countries with a few thousand inhabitants dont really constitute a discrete "market"

I think we know what he meant though.

I know a guy that always says the exact opposite of what he means. At first I thought he was just stupid when he made inaccurate claims all the time. Now I always know what he means despite him being wrong every single time. 

A statement can be wrong even though you could probably figure out its meaning.





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JoeTheBro on 20 September 2013
sales2099 said:
Euphoria14 said:
sales2099 said:
Pretty much confirmed that neither X1 or PS4 can be placed vertically.

PS4 has a vertical stand. Sony always displays it vertical.

Oh ya, sry I was thinking of it without one, and with its uneven shape it wouldn't be physically possible. lol nm.


The shape works fine for going vertical actually. Sony even forgot to use a stand at TGS.



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Scisca on 20 September 2013
kowenicki said:
pezus said:
kowenicki said:
pezus said:
What's with this guy and thinking there are less than 14 countries in Europe? ("most European markets")


Huh?  How does saying "launching in most european markets" become he thinks there are less than 14 countries in Europe?  You feeling ok today?

But yeah, perhaps he should have said launching in the important European markets to clarify. 

One is launching in 7 European countries, as far as I know. Correct me if I'm wrong. 

Majority means >50%, which means 7 would be >50% of countries in Europe, which means 100%<14


Like I said.... perhaps he should have clarified with important countries (markets).  Countries with a few thousand inhabitants dont really constitute a discrete "market"

I think we know what he meant though.

Just off the top of my head...
Russia - 144 mil (largest country in Europe)

Ukraine - 45 mil (second largest country in Europe)

Poland - 39 mil (9th largest country in Europe)

XO isn't coming not only to big, but also to the richest markets like Skandinavia, Switzerland (higher GDP per capita than in the US) or the Benelux.

So let's not ignore or downplay the markets MS is ignoring. They are destroying their chances of catching up to Sony in Europe right from the start, the only thing they have going for them is a FIFA exclusive mode, but that probably won't do much for them in the light of this.



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sully1311 on 20 September 2013
Scisca said:
kowenicki said:
pezus said:
kowenicki said:
pezus said:
What's with this guy and thinking there are less than 14 countries in Europe? ("most European markets")


Huh?  How does saying "launching in most european markets" become he thinks there are less than 14 countries in Europe?  You feeling ok today?

But yeah, perhaps he should have said launching in the important European markets to clarify. 

One is launching in 7 European countries, as far as I know. Correct me if I'm wrong. 

Majority means >50%, which means 7 would be >50% of countries in Europe, which means 100%<14


Like I said.... perhaps he should have clarified with important countries (markets).  Countries with a few thousand inhabitants dont really constitute a discrete "market"

I think we know what he meant though.

Just off the top of my head...
Russia - 144 mil (largest country in Europe)

Ukraine - 45 mil (second largest country in Europe)

Poland - 39 mil (9th largest country in Europe)

XO isn't coming not only to big, but also to the richest markets like Skandinavia, Switzerland (higher GDP per capita than in the US) or the Benelux.

So let's not ignore or downplay the markets MS is ignoring. They are destroying their chances of catching up to Sony in Europe right from the start, the only thing they have going for them is a FIFA exclusive mode, but that probably won't do much for them in the light of this.

Do you mean is size or population, because if it's population you are wrong lol.



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Scisca on 20 September 2013
sully1311 said:
Scisca said:
kowenicki said:
pezus said:
kowenicki said:
pezus said:
What's with this guy and thinking there are less than 14 countries in Europe? ("most European markets")


Huh?  How does saying "launching in most european markets" become he thinks there are less than 14 countries in Europe?  You feeling ok today?

But yeah, perhaps he should have said launching in the important European markets to clarify. 

One is launching in 7 European countries, as far as I know. Correct me if I'm wrong. 

Majority means >50%, which means 7 would be >50% of countries in Europe, which means 100%<14


Like I said.... perhaps he should have clarified with important countries (markets).  Countries with a few thousand inhabitants dont really constitute a discrete "market"

I think we know what he meant though.

Just off the top of my head...
Russia - 144 mil (largest country in Europe)

Ukraine - 45 mil (second largest country in Europe)

Poland - 39 mil (9th largest country in Europe)

XO isn't coming not only to big, but also to the richest markets like Skandinavia, Switzerland (higher GDP per capita than in the US) or the Benelux.

So let's not ignore or downplay the markets MS is ignoring. They are destroying their chances of catching up to Sony in Europe right from the start, the only thing they have going for them is a FIFA exclusive mode, but that probably won't do much for them in the light of this.

Do you mean is size or population, because if it's population you are wrong lol.


Largest - size in all 3 cases. I'd say most populous, if I was talking about population, but I see it might have been a bit confusing.



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tuscaniman99 on 20 September 2013

Wow the amount of attention this is getting is ridiculous. I can't wait till both consoles release. Not because I want to play them but because at this point I want people to argue about games and not crap like this.



crissindahouse on 20 September 2013

even stuff like these news are causing a "war" lol



Wright on 20 September 2013

Do not fiiiiiiiiiiight, people D:

 

Thing goes like this: both consoles can be put on Vertical Orientation, it's just the Xbox One is not recommended for it.



thismeintiel on 20 September 2013

Have to say, this really surprised me. The console itself looks rock solid in videos. I'm guessing they went cheap with the disk drives again. It is funny how he downplays 20% like it's nothing. ~16M people isn't exactly a small number. This also means One isn't going to do very well in Japan, probably even worse than the 360. Japanese apartments aren't very big and they like to save as much space as possible.