zorg1000 said:
nitekrawler1285 said:
zorg1000 said:
nitekrawler1285 said:
I think it's very plausible. Even if the holidays are 66% of Wii U sales that isnt very much. As of now that would be 2-3 million sales in addition to it's paltry 3.5 million sold. 2D Mario cant sell the system so I'm not convinced 3D Mario can Multiplayer or not. WWHD I cant see sell a console. It couldn't sell the Gamecube which was way cheaper and had some decent games at least. DK:TF might help but it doesn't really have the overall library to compliment it that the first had. In addition to a strong holiday lineup the other consoles have strong libraries coming up Q1 of next year. I suppose the Wii U has a better lineup coming next year but we will see how it compares. |
2D Mario has sold the system, how many Wii Us would be sold if NSMBU wasnt on it? Also its not one single game that sells a console, in the next three months Wii U has 8 exclusives that belong to multimillion selling franchises. Wind Waker HD, Sonic Lost World, Wii Party U, Wii Fit U, Wii Sports Club, Mario & Sonic Olympics, DKC Tropical Freeze, Mario 3D World. Alone none of those games will do much but combined in a short amount of time in addition to price cut, new bundles, marketing and holidays should give Wii U decent sales for the next few months.
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You must understand. Ive purchased a console for one game. Sometimes 2 games. Had Dragon's Dogma not come along the PS3 may have never been worth the purchase as I'm still waiting on that game I bought it for. So I can tell you that to this enthusiast 1 game is enough. The promise of one game is enough. Though this new wound inflicted with TLG has me rethinking that stance.
I wasn't aware of the full roster it appears but I cant imagine most of those drastically changing much of anything. Sonic long ago lost it's luster and Im not sure that isn't the case with all of them sans maybe DK. Galaxy 2 made it seem like the 3D Mario series is in a decline sales wise. I can't see the Wii series games being nearly as successful. Especially how Wii series fans were left without software so swiftly other than Tamagotchi and AC we havent seen anywhere near the same effect from expanded audience software which I would argue those 2 series arent mass market expanded audience whatever you would call them as their fan base of millions had been around prior and just gained popularity in portable format like MH. This line up might be able to lift holiday season sales to something less lackluster. I would honestly think we may be comparing it to the Vita's holiday season last year as the closest system of reference. .
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If u want to compare Wii U to Vita thats fine. Vita did 2.3m from Sept 1, 2012-March 30, 2013. Wii U is currently tracking ahead of Vita and has a much stronger line up in the same time frame so an additional 2.5-3.5m by the end of the fiscal year isnt out of the question. That would put Wii U at 6-7 million and Sony/Microsoft arent expecting to ship that many by then so I dont know why fans expect them to.
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It seems we only really differ in our view of the strength of the upcoming Wii U library:
Wind Waker HD: Really old HD port of the least popular game in a series. The 3DS got an up resed port of the most popular game in the series and it didnt do much for it. That system had more momentum.
Sonic Lost World: Sonic games stopped being system sellers ages ago
Wii Party U, Wii Fit U, Wii Sports Club: I think the audience for those games is long gone, burned by Nintendo. I doubt they want a more expensive console for a slightly up ressed adventure with less fun controls. last one is an up resed port only available onllne and with a less intuitive control scheme.
Mario & Sonic Olympics: This one was a good seller on the Wii. We will see if they return to a more expensive console for it.
DKC Tropical Freeze: I still have Confidence in Retro and this series. Despite platform it seems to sell well and have a decent fan base that may well be growing.
Mario 3D World: I think a majority of the people anticpating the Inevitable 3D Mario game already bought a Wii U. If we see a drop because 3D Mario was done 2x instead of once a gen last time I wouldn't be surprised.
While the holiday library looks weak to me atm I do see Mario Kart and Smas Bros as heavy hitters next year. So if it doesn't happen by March I doubt it happening through the summer. I've also heard Vgchartz over track the wii U alot in the west so current size of the userbase could be even smaller. So I still think it may be possible. Given my assessment of the upcoming library you can see why I am sticking with a much more conservative estimate than you. Upresed ports of old games that nobody wanted sounds alot like how many described Vita's library last year.
