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S.T.A.G.E. on 15 September 2013
Scisca said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

GTA3 wasnt that bad of a game but for its time it was very mature. GTA today would most likely push the envelope even further in violence, sexual language kids shouldn't hear, misogynist statements against women, nudity, drugs and more in  cocktail to the point where kids beome desensititzed to it. Desensitization is why you no longer can scare a child any longer and the horror genre has gone down the shitter. You don't need to be the best director of a scary movie but today the genre has no chance any longer. The demands of violence, sex and drugs has grown to a rate where people need to see movies like Saw or even Hostel to even cringe. To make them even squirm they need visceral stiumli. What scared our parents fails to scare us. We can watch people die in real life because of it.

Most parents and old school pioneers of the war against videogames have made ridiculous arguments against videogames. I just so happened to have studied disensitization and just like rated R films and Videogames, they desensitize children to the point where the industry has to search for answers in how to shock people further. Children force themselves to grow up and again react less to stimuli before their time, therefore forcing the industry to go on defense.

In conclusion, our parents are more emotionally sensitive than we are.


Pure BS. The old horror movies didn't scare us because they were brutal, there was almost nothing brutal about them. They worked on what's scariest - fear itself. It's not the zombie that's scary, it's the threat of a zombie appearing when you don't know when and where it'll happen. Horror movies nowadays are made by idiots who think that blood and violence is scarier than the fear of the unknown, the fear of... fear. In fact they just can't make a movie like that, cause they have no idea about making horror movies, so they just put mindless violence and call it a day. If anything, these movies are disgusting not scary, so they have nothing to do with making you scared and it's no wonder they don't scare anyone. Also trust me, no movie or game will prepare you for the sight of a real dying man.

Also, I hate when some "educated pricks" talk this crap about us being exposed to so much violence, that we need the "innocence years" and that we live in sick and violent times. Do they know the first thing about history? We live is such peaceful and pacifistic times that it's probably bad for us. When has it been better? 70 years ago during the II WW? When you had death on every step, dead bodies in the streets, you never knew if you were going to live another day or hour even? My grandparents grew up in such a reality and they are normal people, they are the ones that get scared much easier than kids nowadays accourding to you. And earlier? I WW - ever more brutal. Earlier? There were constant wars, constant fighting, murdering and raping, little children were working whole days, nobody cared about them, often even their parents didn't care about their lives that much. And now some "wise scholar" goes on to tell me that we live in brutal times and that a video game or movie can destroy a person's psyche. Desensitization caused by a game? God, have we become weak pussies.

What the hell are you babbling about? I never said old horror movies didn't scare you because they were brutal. I stated that kids were desensitized to the fear at such early age, so brutality became the construct used to create shock value since society no longer responded, thus the rise of movies like SAW and Hostel. Long gone are the days of Jason and Freddy Kreuger or before that Psycho and Dracula when movies were at their psychological extreme and never let you see a thing, but rather let your imagination take effect to the harsh outcomes of situation. Of course no movie can prepare you for the sight of a real dying man. You're bolstering my point but instead of understanding the early effects you're jumping to the extreme. I know quite a few military servicemen and have spoken to them on the issue. I never went to that extreme.

I am talking about the desensitization of media, not war and actual murder. Never did I bring about that point. You're just frustrated by the fact that it does exist. The people going on about how kids will go crazy with guns because of videogames, thats nonsense.



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kljesta64 on 15 September 2013

i think this is more disturbing then GTA.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 15 September 2013
Wright said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

You're desensitized, which means society has increase the enevolope psychologically to entertain you.


I don't agree. I still cry like a little girl whenever I watch Cast Away. Or The Iron Giant.


What does that have to do with horror and violence in the media? I've cried in movies too, but I know I am desensitized to specific things because things I watched or played.



Wright on 15 September 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Wright said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

You're desensitized, which means society has increase the enevolope psychologically to entertain you.


I don't agree. I still cry like a little girl whenever I watch Cast Away. Or The Iron Giant.


What does that have to do with horror and violence?


Desensibilization doesn't apply to one area. It affects you on the whole.



S.T.A.G.E. on 15 September 2013
Wright said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Wright said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

You're desensitized, which means society has increase the enevolope psychologically to entertain you.


I don't agree. I still cry like a little girl whenever I watch Cast Away. Or The Iron Giant.


What does that have to do with horror and violence?


Desensibilization doesn't apply to one area. It affects you on the whole.


I said desensitization not desensibilization. Desensitization does apply to specific stimuli, not all. Having sex is different seeing sex and witnessing or involving ones self in murder and seeing murder (even opposed to virtual murder) are two different stimuli opposed to two different extremes to related stimuli just first hand rather than simulated. If you include both in the process you've desensitized both, if not only one area is desentized. It is based upon experience. Even in the bible in the fall of Adam and Eve when they were banished from the garden of eden they were desensitized, therefore losing their innocence and immortality in what is known as the Fall of Man.



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Wright on 15 September 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Even in the bible in the fall of Adam and Eve when they were banished from the garden of eden they were desensitized, therefore losing their innocence and immortality in what is known as the Fall of Man.


Didn't know the Resistance series had such a connection with religion!



S.T.A.G.E. on 15 September 2013
Wright said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Even in the bible in the fall of Adam and Eve when they were banished from the garden of eden they were desensitized, therefore losing their innocence and immortality in what is known as the Fall of Man.


Didn't know the Resistance series had such a connection with religion!


lol



NobleTeam360 on 15 September 2013

Kids playing GTA isn't anything new I've been playing GTA games since I was 10 years old just people trying to turn something into a controversy for no reason. LMAO also look at the video the kid is crying and yet he knows he wants to keep playing the game he even kisses the video game case.



ryuzaki57 on 15 September 2013

The problem isn't French parents, it's French journalists who talk about this game all day long like it were the game of the decade.



 

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S.T.A.G.E. on 15 September 2013
NobleTeam360 said:
Kids playing GTA isn't anything new I've been playing GTA games since I was 10 years old just people trying to turn something into a controversy for no reason. LMAO also look at the video the kid is crying and yet he knows he wants to keep playing the game he even kisses the video game case.


We know its nothing new. LOL technically it is a controversey, its just that some gamers dont understand the concept of needed censorship and age requirements. The so-called "experts" have thus far been mostly wrong about gaming. There is something wrong but they still haven't figured it out. They cannot know unless they involve themselves in it.