It's true though. It wouldn't have to be repeated if a certain fanbase would quit grasping for straws on this topic. There's chance it might not make that much of a difference anyway.

Because it's against the forum rules.  See below (italics mine):

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I think it is more in the lines of the difference may not be what so many are claiming. Only a few more months until we get to experience these consoles; then people can actually judge it better. (Not that it will change many opinions.)

Anyway back on track, I'm still interested in what the custom silicon on the xbox does. Looking back at the 360 arch, there were a few nifty ideas buried in there which didn't really pan out for reasons. Such as the eDRAM offering some "free" framebuffer post-processing, which was limited by being only 10MB. The GPU could also lock the CPU cache with the idea that a thread could stream data directly to the GPU for rendering.

These sort of features may be expanded and made actually useful with the benefit of hindsight of 360's foibles. Let's not forget that MS pioneered this integrated memory along with other nice features like unified shaders, in partnership with AMD.

Looks more like this everytime


Let it rest - The PS4 is the most powerful Console of the NextGen.
Doesn't matter if its 5 times faster or just a bit- We know it now.
No secret nuclear powerbrick and all that stuff you guys want to have and believe you have in your Xbox One.

so this post from the same site says it all basicly

JNZ
12 September, 2013 at 6:25 pm

You know… As someone who actually does very low level (assembly) ram management on controllers with extremely finite resources day in and day out…

I’m getting really sick of all the “RAM EXPERTS” on the internet who in absolute truth are more impressed that one type has a “5″ on it vs the that shitty old one with a “3″.

” unpartitioned ram pool (AMD created it as future tech, and Sony modified it)” gave you away as not having a clue about how the nuts and bolts really work. It’s OK, you’re like 99% of the rest of the internet, hell, you’re like 99% of developers because very few actually deal with ram management past “oh this is too big, I’ll make it smaller”.

Just stop with the hating. They are both going to be fine systems and if you think one console having “better ram” is more important than say a multi-billion dollar cloud/datacenter network you’re just going on about the equivalent of picking your nose.

Many of the things he/she states are many of the things I have deducted myself.  It's really fascinating for someone who has been in and around the computer industry for a long time. The big risk Microsoft takes with having all those extra processors is ending up like 'the cell.'  In that nothing works quite efficiently as one would like because it is so cumbersome to program.  So you end up with many games that aren't quite as good on one console as the other.

Now to prevent this, they have integrated the hardware with their well seasoned DirectX 11.2.  So to the programer, it looks like any other DirectX they are designed for on a regular PC.  For example they will send the sound off to the sound processors, thus freeing the CPU, and do not really need to know anything beyond what they usually do. 

I'm really glad to read it has two extra processors so snapping and records games with the DVR do not take any processing from the CPU.  This means you should be able to get some hits on that game where you are stuck, without losing any performance.  It's another good choice they made.  It might be a while before we really learn what some of those other ones do as well.

I like the analogy of a freeway better.  As someone who lives in a large city that has notorious traffic problems.  I look at the two hardware difference not so much as an engine but a freeway/road system.  They are both 8 lanes in each direction, but one say has a faster speed than the other, but the other one has a vast greater number of convenient exits, easier places to turn around, side streets, and extra connectors roads.  So which one will be better moving the most amount of traffic in the most efficient way? 

It's nice who seems to be more theoretical powerful on paper, but what really matters is performance.

Yes hiding it all in the API will make it all useable, MS is known for their good dev environment and support tools. The problem with the Cell wasn't totally from it being an oddball design, but reports that it was poorly documented with devs basically having to work from scratch on it.

Having built furniture from Ikea and similar on more than one occasion I can imagine what that would be like. 

And hmm, I used to know some amazing and great tech writers at Sony.  I wonder what they are doing now...

Caveat being AIUI of course.