For the sake of discussion, please, tell me again how bayonetta 2 is going to sell so much better than wonderful 101.

with just 3.5m WiiU units sold, a one in 52 purchase rate results in 67,307 worldwide

My prediction?, sub-30k units worldwide in first week, sub 150k lifetime.

so do you think by the middle of 2014, Wii U still will have 3,5m units sold?

Double the numbersif you want, still insignificant sales performance.

and you are...?

Why does it matter who he is? you better not be saying this because he is new? he is entitled to that opinion if he wishes.

Because its a forum, where people are free to discuss topics?, Not liking something doesnt mean you have to steer clear of threads about the thing you dont like, if people avoided things they didnt like rather than being vocal about it, everyone would walk around assuming every single thing they did was universally liked, which is a bad thing.

In having the opinion that it is bad, i have just as much of a reason to post in the thread as those that have the opinion that its good.

But, you are free to check my psn / xbl profiles for the original game, and you will find that the game isnt even listed in the list of achivements/trophys, theres a reason for that, that reason being i never bought it, borrowed it, rented it or even pirated it.

Alas, if its easier for you to assume that i actually liked the first game and "im just mad because its now a wiiu exclusive", then youre of course free to assume that, but in reality, im actually kinda glad its a wiiu exclusive, heres hoping the terrible sales of the game that lay ahead put them off making a third so they put their money and time into a new IP that might actually be good for once.

And we all know what stage Nintendo fans are stuck on.

Yes getting bayo2 totally makes them not at any stage for everything else right?

But hey, you and all 5999 other people that buy a kamiya wii u game in then first week will enjoy it at least right? ;)

Doesn't really matter if it stays exclusive or ends up multi plat to me, never bought the first one so buying the second is just not going to happen, ever.

Just a clone of an already tired and crappy franchise padded out with tits and ass to fill the blanks.

"Because its a forum, where people are free to discuss topics?, Not liking something doesnt mean you have to steer clear of threads about the thing you dont like, if people avoided things they didnt like rather than being vocal about it, everyone would walk around assuming every single thing they did was universally liked, which is a bad thing."

Yes, people are free to discuss topics, but all of your posts so far don't seem to suggest you've come to discuss. They suggest you've come to troll. Take this for instance:

and

Flamebait and trolling. Posts or signatures slamming a particular platform without basis - be it a specific console, macs, windows, or anything similar - will not be tolerated. This applies to specific games as well as consoles.

• You always have the right to express your opinion, as long as it is relevant to the thread topic, and you do so in a civil manner, justifying what you say. If you want to discuss something other than the thread topic, make your own thread.
• The forums are here for gamers of all persuasions, so unless you're in a thread specifically geared towards platform comparison/discussion, keep your anti-platform comments out of the thread. Note that there is a difference between having a reasonable argument in the correct thread and trolling.

Having a reasonable argument and trolling. Which side do you think your post falls on?

"In having the opinion that it is bad, i have just as much of a reason to post in the thread as those that have the opinion that its good."

Your opinion isn't relative to the topic at all. It's not about whether or not the game will be good. It's about the game running in 1080p at 60fps. Refer to the rule above again.

"But, you are free to check my psn / xbl profiles for the original game, and you will find that the game isnt even listed in the list of achivements/trophys, theres a reason for that, that reason being i never bought it, borrowed it, rented it or even pirated it."

I don't give a crap whether it's in your profiles. I don't give a crap whether you even played it. Everything you've said has absolutely no bearing on Bayo 2.

"Alas, if its easier for you to assume that i actually liked the first game and "im just mad because its now a wiiu exclusive", then youre of course free to assume that, but in reality, im actually kinda glad its a wiiu exclusive, heres hoping the terrible sales of the game that lay ahead put them off making a third so they put their money and time into a new IP that might actually be good for once."

If all I did was make an assumption, I wouldn't have asked you the question in the first place. I wanted you to explain yourself so I wouldn't have to assume. You assumed I thought you were just mad because you're a fan of the first game and the sequel is a Nintendo exclusive, when I couldn't care less whether you liked it or not. I'm just trying to get an understanding of why you have to insult two entire fanbases (Nintedo fans and Bayonetta fans) just to attempt to be relay your opinion.

But if you want me to make assumptions based on what you've posted so far, here you go:

• You're a middle child or a sibling who didn't get much attention at home growing up, so you feel the need to use showy, theatrical, sometimes violent tactics in order to express yourself, even if they violate rules or are offensive to others.
• You aren't very athletic or intelligently gifted, so you take great pride in your personal possessions, such as the vehicle in your avatar or your gaming console of choice. Tou put down the owners of competitive products in order to reinforce your pride and stave off feelings of insecurity, yet claim that such trivial matters are actually unimportant to you. Your car probably has one of those decals with Calvin pissing on another automaker's graphic.
• You have this compulsive need to "be right" instead of "getting it right." If you and a friend were sitting on a couch and you commented on it being 8 o'clock already, but your friend corrected you his watch saying it's 9, you would waste copious amounts of time arguing it's 8 because you said it was 8. Rather than using any actual fact-checking tools like the very watch on his wrist, or your cell phones, or any other time-keeping device, you would turn it into a match of testosterone and chest-beating until you could bully him into acquiesing that you are, in fact right.

But I'm a random stranger on the Internet, so what do I know?