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fatslob-:O said:
eyeofcore said:
fatslob-:O said:
eyeofcore said:
Both Xbox One and PlayStation 4 has hUMA.

All the features that Xbox One's Kinect can do is indication that it has hUMA because to do all of those things at the same time is only possible with hUMA:

*Facepalm* 

The kinect SOC is likely an ASIC, not exactly what you'd call some generic processor. Everything can be done without hUMA. The memory architecture is only used to improve performance of certain tasks.


*facepalm*

You must be that dumb to think that I don't know that everything can be done without hUMA, are you that dumb/naive?

I said Kinect you imbecile, Xbox One kinect does what original Xbox 360's Kinect can't do and only 10% is allocated to Kinect XO also at the rate it is doing all things the same with just 10% it is only possible with hUMA at that rate to do all of those creepy things. Jesus christ,..

 

Moderated - Kresnik.

"only possible"

You must have some serious problems with english as evidenced by your youtube channel LMAO. Contradiction much ? The one here naive truly is you LOL. 

BTW body recognition is a highly parallel task so hUMA wouldn't make any difference. You've shown nothing but absolute ignorance in the high end tech space. People at anandtech would be laughing at you if you were there. That's why you got pwned so hard by pemalite in this post who has more experience than me. You'll never be a match for me because you don't do any programming. Your lack of understanding keeps you from comprehending advanced concepts such as hUMA. 


My knowledge of English is fine, only speaking has some issues since I don't speak much in English since it is not my native language and claiming that I am contradicting and that I am naive is a fallacy. I may not explain properly what I am trying to say so Il try again to prove your ignorance and people at Anandtech would agree with me and Pemalite did not pwned me, but himself with that post and his own ignorance.

Just because I don't do programming does not mean I can't understand the concept of it.

hUMA has the effect and you are denying it, first of all hUMA has less bottlenecks thus it increases the speed of accessing data thus better communication between CPU and GPU also you can do that in GPGPU yet again some things need to be done on CPU and hUMA allows far more direct communication between CPU and GPU to allow real time processing and showcase of those results thus it is way more correct.

All of things that Microsoft said about Kinect in Xbox One were made possible by hUMA and AMD's slide also indicate that because hUMA rapidly increases execution of tasks and makes programming easier between CPU and GPU, thus you have Bolt and also detecting problems in the code in Open CL should be easier, right?

Just because I can not explain you sometimes properly and just because  you can't think out of the box for a second thus not being narrow minded as a person.

Anyway... I wonder if developers will offload pathfinding to hUMA, it should drastically increase challenges in game eg flanking and that, I am still amazed with original Half Life's AI that flanks me compared to other AI's that mostly just charge like suicide bombers.



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eyeofcore said:

All of things that Microsoft said about Kinect in Xbox One were made possible by hUMA and AMD's slide also indicate that because hUMA rapidly increases execution of tasks and makes programming easier between CPU and GPU, thus you have Bolt and also detecting problems in the code in Open CL should be easier, right?


hUMA is just a stepping stone to something greater. ;)



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eyeofcore said:
fatslob-:O said:
eyeofcore said:
Both Xbox One and PlayStation 4 has hUMA.

All the features that Xbox One's Kinect can do is indication that it has hUMA because to do all of those things at the same time is only possible with hUMA:

*Facepalm* 

The kinect SOC is likely an ASIC, not exactly what you'd call some generic processor. Everything can be done without hUMA. The memory architecture is only used to improve performance of certain tasks.


*facepalm*

You must be that dumb to think that I don't know that everything can be done without hUMA, are you that dumb/naive?

I said Kinect you imbecile, Xbox One kinect does what original Xbox 360's Kinect can't do and only 10% is allocated to Kinect XO also at the rate it is doing all things the same with just 10% it is only possible with hUMA at that rate to do all of those creepy things. Jesus christ,..

 

Moderated - Kresnik.

You will soon find that if your opinion in any way is not going down the path the the PS4 is all powerful, you will be questioned and harrassed until the end of time on these forums.  Eventually, basic frustration begins and that's when the Sony faithful take advantage of you.  People end up falling off topic and making personal attacks.  If you want to stick around, don't bother to try to debate PS4 vs XB1 power.  Too many Sony supporters here and all of them act like they designed both systems and know better than anyone with a different opinion.

 

OT : I am a supporter of the XB1(even though i did not preorder it or the PS4).  But the facts are the facts at this point.  The PS4 is probably 30% more powerful in graphics capability than the XB1.  The difference is that within 2 years both systems will sadly be way under powered.  They can barely do 1080p now and it will be a steady decline towards 30fps and 720p.  1st party games will be the only ones to do better, but that will be because the designers made choices to reduce other parts of the games to achieve higher resolution or faster framerates.  When everbody complained about the "power of the cloud" on this site, they were very short sighted.  The power of the cloud had better help both systems a few years from now or there will be great dissapointment in our futures.



Lol landguy. That post is funny. "Dont try to argue. Jist spout nonsense and ignore people when they call you out. And lets just call everyone who goes against you sony supporters... even though fatslob is a pc guy



I guess the truth came out and he' surprised



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landguy1 said:
eyeofcore said:
fatslob-:O said:
eyeofcore said:
Both Xbox One and PlayStation 4 has hUMA.

All the features that Xbox One's Kinect can do is indication that it has hUMA because to do all of those things at the same time is only possible with hUMA:

*Facepalm* 

The kinect SOC is likely an ASIC, not exactly what you'd call some generic processor. Everything can be done without hUMA. The memory architecture is only used to improve performance of certain tasks.


*facepalm*

You must be that dumb to think that I don't know that everything can be done without hUMA, are you that dumb/naive?

I said Kinect you imbecile, Xbox One kinect does what original Xbox 360's Kinect can't do and only 10% is allocated to Kinect XO also at the rate it is doing all things the same with just 10% it is only possible with hUMA at that rate to do all of those creepy things. Jesus christ,..

 

Moderated - Kresnik.

You will soon find that if your opinion in any way is not going down the path the the PS4 is all powerful, you will be questioned and harrassed until the end of time on these forums.  Eventually, basic frustration begins and that's when the Sony faithful take advantage of you.  People end up falling off topic and making personal attacks.  If you want to stick around, don't bother to try to debate PS4 vs XB1 power.  Too many Sony supporters here and all of them act like they designed both systems and know better than anyone with a different opinion.

 

OT : I am a supporter of the XB1(even though i did not preorder it or the PS4).  But the facts are the facts at this point.  The PS4 is probably 30% more powerful in graphics capability than the XB1.  The difference is that within 2 years both systems will sadly be way under powered.  They can barely do 1080p now and it will be a steady decline towards 30fps and 720p.  1st party games will be the only ones to do better, but that will be because the designers made choices to reduce other parts of the games to achieve higher resolution or faster framerates.  When everbody complained about the "power of the cloud" on this site, they were very short sighted.  The power of the cloud had better help both systems a few years from now or there will be great dissapointment in our futures.

PlayStation 4 is powerful, but the gap is not that huge and rule of diminishing returns are applied...

Only reason why games on Xbox One and PlayStation 4 would be sub 1080p is because of 3rd party wanting the best visuals and because of game engines that are coded in high level or mid level code rather than low level code like Assemly to use maximum out of the machine, look at Iron Fall for 3DS.

Gap between Xbox One and PlayStation 4 is not huge by any standards at these power levels, it that was like with Genesis versus SNES then 30% made a huge difference yet the more performance you have the less you can do as you increase resolution, drawing distance and other things.

I could go chatting about this for days.



Pemalite said:
eyeofcore said:

All of things that Microsoft said about Kinect in Xbox One were made possible by hUMA and AMD's slide also indicate that because hUMA rapidly increases execution of tasks and makes programming easier between CPU and GPU, thus you have Bolt and also detecting problems in the code in Open CL should be easier, right?


hUMA is just a stepping stone to something greater. ;)


I know... It may finally allow proper exoskeletons or mech's that won't fall on the backs or on the face... hahaha

hUMA will allow much smarter AI. :D



landguy1 said:
eyeofcore said:
fatslob-:O said:
eyeofcore said:
Both Xbox One and PlayStation 4 has hUMA.

All the features that Xbox One's Kinect can do is indication that it has hUMA because to do all of those things at the same time is only possible with hUMA:

*Facepalm* 

The kinect SOC is likely an ASIC, not exactly what you'd call some generic processor. Everything can be done without hUMA. The memory architecture is only used to improve performance of certain tasks.


*facepalm*

You must be that dumb to think that I don't know that everything can be done without hUMA, are you that dumb/naive?

I said Kinect you imbecile, Xbox One kinect does what original Xbox 360's Kinect can't do and only 10% is allocated to Kinect XO also at the rate it is doing all things the same with just 10% it is only possible with hUMA at that rate to do all of those creepy things. Jesus christ,..

 

Moderated - Kresnik.

You will soon find that if your opinion in any way is not going down the path the the PS4 is all powerful, you will be questioned and harrassed until the end of time on these forums.  Eventually, basic frustration begins and that's when the Sony faithful take advantage of you.  People end up falling off topic and making personal attacks.  If you want to stick around, don't bother to try to debate PS4 vs XB1 power.  Too many Sony supporters here and all of them act like they designed both systems and know better than anyone with a different opinion.

 

OT : I am a supporter of the XB1(even though i did not preorder it or the PS4).  But the facts are the facts at this point.  The PS4 is probably 30% more powerful in graphics capability than the XB1.  The difference is that within 2 years both systems will sadly be way under powered.  They can barely do 1080p now and it will be a steady decline towards 30fps and 720p.  1st party games will be the only ones to do better, but that will be because the designers made choices to reduce other parts of the games to achieve higher resolution or faster framerates.  When everbody complained about the "power of the cloud" on this site, they were very short sighted.  The power of the cloud had better help both systems a few years from now or there will be great dissapointment in our futures.

I don't know why so many push the fact that PS4's GPU is only 40% faster. The thing is even in a PC that 40% is equal to a 125% increase in pixel drawing capability, along with more effects, and at times an even higher frame rate. PS4 and XBO will hold there own for quite a while at 1080/30 and 720/30 respectivly. Sure super high end cards will always be able to perform much better, but when has that not been the case. The biggest thing these consoles are doing is setting a new baseline. A major majority of people do not have a PC capable of what the PS4 and XBO are capable of and will not for at least another 5 years. 

Now I hate to sound like a broken record, but I will say it again. If a game is running at 720/30 on PS4 it will either need a major downgrade on XBO or it will have to run at a noticably lower resolution. The PS4 has a sizable advantage, and it is just not something XBO will be able to overcome. With that knowledge it is up to each individual what they are looking for in a console. 



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eyeofcore said:


My knowledge of English is fine, only speaking has some issues since I don't speak much in English since it is not my native language and claiming that I am contradicting and that I am naive is a fallacy. I may not explain properly what I am trying to say so Il try again to prove your ignorance and people at Anandtech would agree with me and Pemalite did not pwned me, but himself with that post and his own ignorance.

Just because I don't do programming does not mean I can't understand the concept of it.

hUMA has the effect and you are denying it, first of all hUMA has less bottlenecks thus it increases the speed of accessing data thus better communication between CPU and GPU also you can do that in GPGPU yet again some things need to be done on CPU and hUMA allows far more direct communication between CPU and GPU to allow real time processing and showcase of those results thus it is way more correct.

All of things that Microsoft said about Kinect in Xbox One were made possible by hUMA and AMD's slide also indicate that because hUMA rapidly increases execution of tasks and makes programming easier between CPU and GPU, thus you have Bolt and also detecting problems in the code in Open CL should be easier, right?

Just because I can not explain you sometimes properly and just because  you can't think out of the box for a second thus not being narrow minded as a person.

Anyway... I wonder if developers will offload pathfinding to hUMA, it should drastically increase challenges in game eg flanking and that, I am still amazed with original Half Life's AI that flanks me compared to other AI's that mostly just charge like suicide bombers.

@Bold Bwahahahaha. I hope you don't stay too long in their forums cause they probably already getting tired of your lies. 

If you don't do any programming you will fail to understand pemalite's and my perspective of things. 

That second line is epic fail LOL. It shows that you have no understanding of how hUMA truly works!

Kinect was possible without hUMA! Apparently you don't understand what I had meant by massively parallel. 

Your the narrow minded person here! You cannot even get your facts right which suggest you have some seroius issues of understanding anything that happens in the world of complex circuits! 



landguy1 said:
eyeofcore said:
fatslob-:O said:
eyeofcore said:
Both Xbox One and PlayStation 4 has hUMA.

All the features that Xbox One's Kinect can do is indication that it has hUMA because to do all of those things at the same time is only possible with hUMA:

*Facepalm* 

The kinect SOC is likely an ASIC, not exactly what you'd call some generic processor. Everything can be done without hUMA. The memory architecture is only used to improve performance of certain tasks.


*facepalm*

You must be that dumb to think that I don't know that everything can be done without hUMA, are you that dumb/naive?

I said Kinect you imbecile, Xbox One kinect does what original Xbox 360's Kinect can't do and only 10% is allocated to Kinect XO also at the rate it is doing all things the same with just 10% it is only possible with hUMA at that rate to do all of those creepy things. Jesus christ,..

 

Moderated - Kresnik.

You will soon find that if your opinion in any way is not going down the path the the PS4 is all powerful, you will be questioned and harrassed until the end of time on these forums.  Eventually, basic frustration begins and that's when the Sony faithful take advantage of you.  People end up falling off topic and making personal attacks.  If you want to stick around, don't bother to try to debate PS4 vs XB1 power.  Too many Sony supporters here and all of them act like they designed both systems and know better than anyone with a different opinion.

 

OT : I am a supporter of the XB1(even though i did not preorder it or the PS4).  But the facts are the facts at this point.  The PS4 is probably 30% more powerful in graphics capability than the XB1.  The difference is that within 2 years both systems will sadly be way under powered.  They can barely do 1080p now and it will be a steady decline towards 30fps and 720p.  1st party games will be the only ones to do better, but that will be because the designers made choices to reduce other parts of the games to achieve higher resolution or faster framerates.  When everbody complained about the "power of the cloud" on this site, they were very short sighted.  The power of the cloud had better help both systems a few years from now or there will be great dissapointment in our futures.

If you think that I'm some PS fanboy then you have have ALOT to learn. This dude is getting shredded from PC gamers by the likes of me and pemalite. 

The power of the cloud won't happen unless the general public is willing to spend $180 year subscriptions for cloud computing to happen. Sorry dude but $60 ain't enough when onlive is barely striving at $120 subscriptions. The question now is are you willing to subscribe that much ?