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J_Allard said:
iamdeath said:

Uncharted and TLOU medicore games? How? LOU in partiocular has some of the best Stealth, survival, and melee gameplay this entire gen, sorry but cannot take an yomne serious. Funny how not 1 reivew out of 100 mentioned mediocre gameplay.............Sony bought them all right? Please. TRLOU gameplay is better then anything on Xbox, it MP also happens to be great as well. Same goes for uncharted a perfect blend of balls to the wall action, huge set pieces, stealth and platforming. It's rewards speak for themselves and it's not just because of the cinematics.....that's moronic.

 

You might think that because you sleep with your xbox daily, but no sensible gamer nor gaming media thinks so. So you saying it certainly doesn;t make it so.

Sorry, but what? Last of Us has extremely weak stealth and virtually no survivor elements. Melee gameplay is pretty good, in SP anyway. But the other two.. lulz.

Umm no, how does it not have any survival elements? The entire game is based around it, supplies are constantly low, crafting is a big prt of the game as well. What is wrong with the stealth? You say it is weak but cannot explain how? The stealth was excellent, in fat it was better then a full stealth game I played recently, in Hitman. It was intense, and worked extremely well. Sorry xbox fan says say, it's total BS. Again 100 reviews not one said this, sony bought them all? You post is LULZ, an attepmt to put one of the best games this gen down because it is a PS3 exclusive.



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iamdeath said:

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Umm no, how does it not have any survival elements? The entire game is based around it, supplies are constantly low, crafting is a big prt of the game as well. What is wrong with the stealth? You say it is weak but cannot explain how? The stealth was excellent, in fat it was better then a full stealth game I played recently, in Hitman. It was intense, and worked extremely well. Sorry xbox fan says say, it's total BS. Again 100 reviews not one said this, sony bought them all? You post is LULZ, an attepmt to put one of the best games this gen down because it is a PS3 exclusive.


Fallout New Vegas has more survival elements than The Last of Us, especially on hardcore mode. Seriously, as much as I adore The Last of Us and anything made by Naughty Dog, there really is close to no survival elements in the game. You don't need food or anything, the crafting is mostly uneccessary, it's not really different from collecting items. You just collect some health packs and ammo and stuff, that's really all there is to it. 

But the stealth gameplay within the game was pretty good imo. And after all, the game was just fun from the beginning to the end, which is all that matters to me personally.



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Grandia said:
Especially Forza 5 looks anyways far better than any game on the ps4.






Kane1389 said:
Grandia said:
Especially Forza 5 looks anyways far better than any game on the ps4.

 

 

 

 

 


I don't want to be "that guy" but...this example here is multiplatform.



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@Kane1389: Final Fantasy is multiplatform and The Dark Sorcerer was a tech demo.



iamdeath said:

Umm no, how does it not have any survival elements? The entire game is based around it, supplies are constantly low, crafting is a big prt of the game as well. What is wrong with the stealth? You say it is weak but cannot explain how? The stealth was excellent, in fat it was better then a full stealth game I played recently, in Hitman. It was intense, and worked extremely well. Sorry xbox fan says say, it's total BS. Again 100 reviews not one said this, sony bought them all? You post is LULZ, an attepmt to put one of the best games this gen down because it is a PS3 exclusive.

It's adorable that you're so defensive but there's no need for the Xbox shit. I bought Last of Us day one and still play the MP today. You should try being more open minded when it comes to games and consoles, it's awesome :)

Regarding survival elements, you don't need food, for me there were plenty of supplies (I beat it on Hard and got maybe 20% through on Survival before realizing there was virtually no difference and stopped playing), and there is absolutely no fear of death because if you die, you just respawn to a spot 5 seconds before your death. Crafting has nothing to do with surviving, it's just a cool way to get items that some games use.

Regarding stealth, where to begin? The enemies rarely, if ever, react to sound. Not only your sound, but especially the sound of your group. It's hilarious to see people say "well that was a design decision!" as if that excuses piss poor stealth elements. They not only react poorly to sound but they don't see shit either. There was the scene after you know who sacrificed themselves for you after revealing they were going to become a zombie and the building you're in is being swept by a military team. I sat in one room behind a chair that didn't even come close to covering my whole body and choked out 5 enemies one by one. In a good stealth game, someone might have heard the struggles and come running in. Maybe not. But in a good stealth game, idiot #2, #3, #4, and #5 would not have just walked right into the room, ignored the head sticking out from behind the chair, and just ignored the pile of their dead squadmates on the floor. Or maybe that was just another design decision? idk.

I am aware the game has got great reviews and if I were to review it would get a good score from me as well. For the MP and the overall experience of the SP. Certainly not its weak stealth or survival elements.



J_Allard said:
iamdeath said:

Umm no, how does it not have any survival elements? The entire game is based around it, supplies are constantly low, crafting is a big prt of the game as well. What is wrong with the stealth? You say it is weak but cannot explain how? The stealth was excellent, in fat it was better then a full stealth game I played recently, in Hitman. It was intense, and worked extremely well. Sorry xbox fan says say, it's total BS. Again 100 reviews not one said this, sony bought them all? You post is LULZ, an attepmt to put one of the best games this gen down because it is a PS3 exclusive.

It's adorable that you're so defensive but there's no need for the Xbox shit. I bought Last of Us day one and still play the MP today. You should try being more open minded when it comes to games and consoles, it's awesome :)

Regarding survival elements, you don't need food, for me there were plenty of supplies (I beat it on Hard and got maybe 20% through on Survival before realizing there was virtually no difference and stopped playing), and there is absolutely no fear of death because if you die, you just respawn to a spot 5 seconds before your death. Crafting has nothing to do with surviving, it's just a cool way to get items that some games use.

Regarding stealth, where to begin? The enemies rarely, if ever, react to sound. Not only your sound, but especially the sound of your group. It's hilarious to see people say "well that was a design decision!" as if that excuses piss poor stealth elements. They not only react poorly to sound but they don't see shit either. There was the scene after you know who sacrificed themselves for you after revealing they were going to become a zombie and the building you're in is being swept by a military team. I sat in one room behind a chair that didn't even come close to covering my whole body and choked out 5 enemies one by one. In a good stealth game, someone might have heard the struggles and come running in. Maybe not. But in a good stealth game, idiot #2, #3, #4, and #5 would not have just walked right into the room, ignored the head sticking out from behind the chair, and just ignored the pile of their dead squadmates on the floor. Or maybe that was just another design decision? idk.

I am aware the game has got great reviews and if I were to review it would get a good score from me as well. For the MP and the overall experience of the SP. Certainly not its weak stealth or survival elements.

Open minded? I have a 360 (add me on live check out my achievements if you want), had an xbox, wii, and a gaming PC...............................so no, I don't need to be any more openminded. (GEars 2 is still the laggiest game this gen online lol),..

Food? Name 1 game you ever need food?? Irrelevant. As for your commnent about respawning LMAO, thats is every game ever made, is that seriosuly your argument? Adnd no it was not close to 5 seconds beforre you would respawn, another lie. Ammo was very scarce, sorry that is a fact.

 

I never had any of these issues (Nor did most who played it or 100 + reviews). They always reacted to every little sound for me, did you play a different version no one else got? Sound of your group ? Group? They always hide when you did. Again name 1 game where have multiple people in your group and being stealthy is not the same? It is a game, get a grip. Even as simple as walking on glass would alert enemies to me, so either you are lieing, exaggerating, grasping at straws, or got a beta version by accident.

Your arguments don't even make sense in EVERy stealth game ever made enemies do not react when you silently choke enemies, you kill them SILENTLY lol. so I guess you judge TLOU differently then say MGS, Splinter cell because it's a PS3 exclusive?

Zombies do not react to dead zopmbies on the ground??? What? Name 1 game they do? They are zombies. Human enemies however did.............always react when seeing a body.

Sorry but you are exaggerating and making up crap to try to spin your argument. Either that or you had a version no one else on the planet played.



iamdeath said:

Open minded? I have a 360 (add me on live check out my achievements if you want), had an xbox, wii, and a gaming PC...............................so no, I don't need to be any more openminded. (GEars 2 is still the laggiest game this gen online lol),..

That is preacious that you think owning multiple consoles means you're open minded. You can claim to be open minded and yet you cannot make a single reply without inferring I must have these complaints with the game because it's a Playstation exclusive. And yeah, Gears 2 sucks online. But let me take a card from your deck and cry that you're only saying that because the game isn't on Playstation.

iamdeath said:

Food? Name 1 game you ever need food?? Irrelevant. As for your commnent about respawning LMAO, thats is every game ever made, is that seriosuly your argument? Adnd no it was not close to 5 seconds beforre you would respawn, another lie. Ammo was very scarce, sorry that is a fact.

 

Well just off the top of my head, New Vegas. And there are countless PC games that have real elements of survival. Hell, I know you'll just cry that I am only bringing this game up because it's on Xbox, but State of Decay has better survival elements than Last of Us. You have to rest, you have to keep stamina up, and if you die you don't respawn 5 seconds prior, you stay dead. And no, the respawning is not "like every game ever made". Maybe you just don't understand what survival elements are. And I guess I'm just a better shot than you, I had no problems with ammo. Especially since your practically invincible, invisible to the enemy teammate has unlimited ammo. "scarce" is not a fact. Scarce for you might be ample amount for others.

iamdeath said:

I never had any of these issues (Nor did most who played it or 100 + reviews). They always reacted to every little sound for me, did you play a different version no one else got? Sound of your group ? Group? They always hide when you did. Again name 1 game where have multiple people in your group and being stealthy is not the same? It is a game, get a grip. Even as simple as walking on glass would alert enemies to me, so either you are lieing, exaggerating, grasping at straws, or got a beta version by accident.

Idk, I'll have to take your word for it. I don't put any stock into reviews, yet alone enough to read 100+ as you apparently have. All I care about is what I see and experience. And LOL your NPC partners do not hide when you do. They might eventually try to hide, or they might just run around in circles around your cover, or just stand there. What does it matter when the enemies don't engage them.

iamdeath said:

Your arguments don't even make sense in EVERy stealth game ever made enemies do not react when you silently choke enemies, you kill them SILENTLY lol. so I guess you judge TLOU differently then say MGS, Splinter cell because it's a PS3 exclusive?

Zombies do not react to dead zopmbies on the ground??? What? Name 1 game they do? They are zombies. Human enemies however did.............always react when seeing a body.

Sorry but you are exaggerating and making up crap to try to spin your argument. Either that or you had a version no one else on the planet played.

The thing is, most of the time you don't kill them silently. In those other games you listed, you do. It's a simple difference there, I hope that helped. And who said a word about dead zombies on the ground? I very clearly said military and even gave a distinct section of the game that anyone who played it should remember. So you need to either read carefully and calm down or admit you never even played the game, which would make sense considering you're praising it's weakest elements as if they're amazing or something.

And given the user this reply is being sent you, there's no point in me continuing any further. You're clearly beyond help if you believe what you're saying so toodles.



Wright said:
Kane1389 said:
Grandia said:
Especially Forza 5 looks anyways far better than any game on the ps4.

 

 

 

 

 


I don't want to be "that guy" but...this example here is multiplatform.

Still looks better than all of X1's (and most of PS4's) exclusives