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JOKA_ said:

Thats a great commercial, but the timing seems off.

If you don't have an X1 pre-ordered at this point, you aren't going to get one on Nov 22nd. Heck, you probably won't be able to find one on a store shelf until 2014.

People who aren't aware of the X1 yet (aka the people this commercial is aimed at) will see the commercial, try to go to gamestop/best buy/walmart to get one, and the guy behind the counter will go "oh you would have needed to pre-order this a while ago to get it on the 22nd"

Still, its a well done commercial, got me hyped for football

What makes you think there won't be consoles available at launch?

"Day One" consoles are a limited availability console and only available for pre-order.  What will be available at the stores are regular bundles. 



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kitler53 said:
TheSting said:
kitler53 said:
SSJGohan3972 said:
very smart advertisement for the people they are shooting for


whom is that?  the nfl fan that is watching an nfl game but really wishes they had a way to watch the game they are already watching?    that guy that wants to watch football but is desperate to have the game interupted by video chat calls?  the dude that thinks the already persistant onscreen game stat updates isn't enough and want to dedicate even more screen space to games other than the one they wanted to watch?


2nd question-you know that there are other easier ways to watch a game? Why go to a game if you could just watch from somewhere else?

3rd-The guy who doesn't think it's desperate or that it's an interruption. Just cause you say it doesn't make it true. 

 

 

4th-maybe it won't be intrusive to most people at all. PiP works great. Side by Side(ESPN) also works great. 

 1. you understand that you can't watch NFL on xbone without already having a cable service with a subscription to ESPN right?  this changes nothing about what content you have access to.  it's not a matter of going to the game or getting an xbox.  it's a matter of paying $500 + $60 a year in xbl to watch the same games that the ESPN subscriber already has access to just without the fantasy football stats on the side.  is that really a compelling offer to you?

2. ..and just because you say it doesn't make it true.  but i know i don't answer any calls during a game.  whatever it is it can wait.

3. have you not seen the screens?  it is damn intrusive imo...    i'd rather have half my screen back especially as a majority of the score updates are already part of the brocast.

I almost have to agree with this.  I like the Xbox One and what it is trying to achieve, but the fantasy football thing seems like a weak push.  Then again, I don't play fantasy football but I am a fan of the NFL and my home team.  So not sure on this feature in general.  I can see the NFL releasing more and more exclusive content for Xbox one in the future though, making it more enticing...



dsgrue3 said:
Machiavellian said:
dsgrue3 said:

Wishful thinking at best. 

Lots of dreamers in here who will be in for a rude awakening.

Actually the only dreamer seems to be you.  You dismiss a mass market feature like its nothing.  You dismiss having integration with the top fantasy leagues on your console as nothing.  You believe that people would not see having the ability to snap between video conference between family members while watching something that is a social featuere, Sports!

You believe just because a feature does not tick your box, it cannot be popular which is another falacy.  When all is said and done, there is no rude awakening.  For people who believe this is a nice feature, they will get the X1 and enjoy it.  I am sure they will not care about any fanboy arguments on its merits or care how many X1 sales compared t the competition.

That's actually not what I said at all. You, as well as many in here, are simply allowing your fanhood to cloud your ability to find my argument (despite my many attempts to clarify for you). Remove your head from the clouds and read what I say.

I am saying that people not interested in gaming will not plop down $500 for the non-gaming features. It's not that type of device...it falls way short in that regard. The Venn diagram was intended to be used to make this explicitly clear for you. I mean, you're welcome to disagree with that analysis, but I think you have unrealistic expectations. 

To be fair, I think they are targeting "green" market (gamers and nfl fans), as well as trying to sway some nfl fans who are not gamers to try out gaming with this rig.

I think they are banking on a lot of nfl fan & gamers, who are on the fence and know what the Xbox brand is.  Or perhaps people who already own a 360 to switch over sooner than later.  I'm just suggesting the green on your graph might be a lot more people than you think.



Adinnieken said:
Augen said:
I agree that sport viewing is a social event, but generally it is done three ways for me.

1. At the pub
2. At the stadium
3. At a get together

Of course I never watch NFL. Or have cable. Or internet. So all this is likely aimed at different viewing habits of a sporting culture (I still have no clue how fantasy sports work) I know next to nothing about.

My guess is that if Microsoft had any kind of agreement with a football association, they would likely gear it toward that culture. 

And if you don't have Internet, how they hell are you on this forum?

Not sure how that would work, need to see it first.

I meant at home like is portrayed in the advertisement.  At my office I have it, where I am now.  I do not watch sports at the office though.  



dsgrue3 said:
Machiavellian said:
dsgrue3 said:

MS is free to market their device as they please, no matter how stupidly. Yes the big screens are bought to enjoy the big picture, not to be cumbered by other things. 

A toaster is a toaster, no matter how many other features you add to it.


So what you are saying is that marketing does not make a difference for a device.  

If a toaster could make me coffee, a grilled cheese sandwitch and egg over easy when I wake up in the morning, well I know what toaster I would purchase.

If I market a toaster by showing its ability to check email, that's a rather inept way of advertising a product that toasts things no?

I think your analogy is quite disingenuous to what the Xbox One does. These are side features that enhance the product...it isn't incorporating any other main features. It does not offer TV services - it simply enhances already paid for services. 

So let me get this straight.  Console connects to TV.  Console can serve gamers, music, Videos, Pictures, Ondemand content from other providers, Cable TV, maybe even over the air.  Now the TV can allow you to do video conference.  Since this device can host all of these services that all are media content, now it can allow you to watch a game, conference in a friend or friends, allow you to keep up to day on your fantasy stats all at the same time.  Seems to me its all synergistic

I think you are not fully looking at what the X1 and XBL does.  Its a service and these are all services that work with a device that contents to a TV which is the center of a lot of homes entertaiment.  It doesn't have to offer anything it consolidates them all within one devices that manages those services.  People have already invested in other services, no need to replace them.



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Machiavellian said:
dsgrue3 said:

If I market a toaster by showing its ability to check email, that's a rather inept way of advertising a product that toasts things no?

I think your analogy is quite disingenuous to what the Xbox One does. These are side features that enhance the product...it isn't incorporating any other main features. It does not offer TV services - it simply enhances already paid for services. 

So let me get this straight.  Console connects to TV.  Console can serve gamers, music, Videos, Pictures, Ondemand content from other providers, Cable TV, maybe even over the air.  Now the TV can allow you to do video conference.  Since this device can host all of these services that all are media content, now it can allow you to watch a game, conference in a friend or friends, allow you to keep up to day on your fantasy stats all at the same time.  Seems to me its all synergistic

I think you are not fully looking at what the X1 and XBL does.  Its a service and these are all services that work with a device that contents to a TV which is the center of a lot of homes entertaiment.  It doesn't have to offer anything it consolidates them all within one devices that manages those services.  People have already invested in other services, no need to replace them.

Thanks for agreeing with me that it does not provide the other services, only enhance existing ones. That's what I've been saying the entire time. Remove your head from the clouds, sir.



dsgrue3 said:
Machiavellian said:
dsgrue3 said:

If I market a toaster by showing its ability to check email, that's a rather inept way of advertising a product that toasts things no?

I think your analogy is quite disingenuous to what the Xbox One does. These are side features that enhance the product...it isn't incorporating any other main features. It does not offer TV services - it simply enhances already paid for services. 

So let me get this straight.  Console connects to TV.  Console can serve gamers, music, Videos, Pictures, Ondemand content from other providers, Cable TV, maybe even over the air.  Now the TV can allow you to do video conference.  Since this device can host all of these services that all are media content, now it can allow you to watch a game, conference in a friend or friends, allow you to keep up to day on your fantasy stats all at the same time.  Seems to me its all synergistic

I think you are not fully looking at what the X1 and XBL does.  Its a service and these are all services that work with a device that contents to a TV which is the center of a lot of homes entertaiment.  It doesn't have to offer anything it consolidates them all within one devices that manages those services.  People have already invested in other services, no need to replace them.

Thanks for agreeing with me that it does not provide the other services, only enhance existing ones. That's what I've been saying the entire time. Remove your head from the clouds, sir.

So you are the type of person who only read what they want to read.  You pick one specific point out of 10.  I guess if you are going to ignore all the other things the console can do besides the one enhancing part then I guess you are correct.  It really does not make your argument very strong if you only want to hear what you want to hear and ignore everything else.  Maybe you should think about the cloud you are on, it seems your view is clouded.



The dude has to be trolling you guys. No one has a view that narrow.



toadslayer72 said:
Soonerman said:
The TV ad got me excited about Xbox One and Madden 25 now that football season has started!!! I'm usually not an early adopter, I wait for price drops. But the NFL app along side with Kinect and how they may work together made me preorder it. Plus it made me also open an NFL Fantasy Football account!! Good job with the ad MS (minus the background song, they could've selected something better).

Hiyooooo, it's already working. What color are you again, red, blue, green? Where did you pre-order from?


Best Buy. I live in NY. I wish the One would be out already cuz with football season I want to use its sweet features!!



Adinnieken said:
JOKA_ said:

Thats a great commercial, but the timing seems off.

If you don't have an X1 pre-ordered at this point, you aren't going to get one on Nov 22nd. Heck, you probably won't be able to find one on a store shelf until 2014.

People who aren't aware of the X1 yet (aka the people this commercial is aimed at) will see the commercial, try to go to gamestop/best buy/walmart to get one, and the guy behind the counter will go "oh you would have needed to pre-order this a while ago to get it on the 22nd"

Still, its a well done commercial, got me hyped for football

What makes you think there won't be consoles available at launch?

"Day One" consoles are a limited availability console and only available for pre-order.  What will be available at the stores are regular bundles. 

I firmly believe that being able to find an X1 (or PS4) on a store shelf is going to be very, very difficult.  There will be midnight launches all over the place, and non-pre-ordered stock is going to go fast.  Your Average Joe who rolls in on Saturday the 23rd (I would bet that the average consumers will naturally try to wait until the weekend to get a unit) is going to have some trouble getting an X1.

The demand is going to outstrip supply for a while, which kind of makes commercials almost useless, but you have to build hype.  Its kind of an interesting situation.  The companies need to build hype so that the consoles name gets out there, but they totally aren't going to need the commercials to sell units, they are going to sell out even without the commercials.



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