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g911turbo on 06 September 2013
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dsgrue3 said:
Machiavellian said:
dsgrue3 said:

Wishful thinking at best. 

Lots of dreamers in here who will be in for a rude awakening.

Actually the only dreamer seems to be you.  You dismiss a mass market feature like its nothing.  You dismiss having integration with the top fantasy leagues on your console as nothing.  You believe that people would not see having the ability to snap between video conference between family members while watching something that is a social featuere, Sports!

You believe just because a feature does not tick your box, it cannot be popular which is another falacy.  When all is said and done, there is no rude awakening.  For people who believe this is a nice feature, they will get the X1 and enjoy it.  I am sure they will not care about any fanboy arguments on its merits or care how many X1 sales compared t the competition.

That's actually not what I said at all. You, as well as many in here, are simply allowing your fanhood to cloud your ability to find my argument (despite my many attempts to clarify for you). Remove your head from the clouds and read what I say.

I am saying that people not interested in gaming will not plop down $500 for the non-gaming features. It's not that type of device...it falls way short in that regard. The Venn diagram was intended to be used to make this explicitly clear for you. I mean, you're welcome to disagree with that analysis, but I think you have unrealistic expectations. 

To be fair, I think they are targeting "green" market (gamers and nfl fans), as well as trying to sway some nfl fans who are not gamers to try out gaming with this rig.

I think they are banking on a lot of nfl fan & gamers, who are on the fence and know what the Xbox brand is.  Or perhaps people who already own a 360 to switch over sooner than later.  I'm just suggesting the green on your graph might be a lot more people than you think.