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UltimateUnknown said:

-Wii U not in parity with the PS4/One. Requires additional resources because of architecture and the need to cut stuff out of a game to fit the Wii U hardware.

-Audience is different from what Bathesda/Gearbox makes, which makes them reluctant to spend additional resources.

Yet they are putting Borderlands 2 on the Vita. LOL! Borderlands 2 would've sold better if it was put on the Wii U as opposed to the Vita. Nobody wants a watered down console port on a handheld.



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xJbownagex said:
UltimateUnknown said:

-Wii U not in parity with the PS4/One. Requires additional resources because of architecture and the need to cut stuff out of a game to fit the Wii U hardware.

-Audience is different from what Bathesda/Gearbox makes, which makes them reluctant to spend additional resources.

Yet they are putting Borderlands 2 on the Vita. LOL! Borderlands 2 would've sold better if it was put on the Wii U as opposed to the Vita. Nobody wants a watered down console port on a handheld.


I wouldn't be stunned if it sold slightly better on better on Vita. Vita has the novelty of being portable going for it.

The Wii U version would just be a late port and would flop, like Mass Effect 3 and others.

I'm pretty sure Call of Duty on Vita outsold the Wii U version, even though the Vita version sucked.



Mnementh said:
oniyide said:
 

it would be comparable had the WIi version not been a budget priced game and the PS2 one full price. Funny how people always forget RE4 Wii was sold cheaply out the gate

It was also a gen late. But maybe. Do you think the three RE-games on Wii sold bad, seeing that they were rail-shooter-spinoffs or very, very late ports? Maybe, but that is again personal opinion on this one and the conclusion may differ from person to person.

dont misunderstand me, im not saying those games sold bad, im just saying that WIi fans love to tout RE4 around like it proves something. Didnt really prove anything. Putting up numbers only tells half the story. yes it came out later, but it was budget priced and it was a launch title. So it took advantage fo being cheap and not having alot of competition. Now would it have sold well if it released 6-12months later at full price? I doubt it.

I'm not saying that a Nintendo console cant sell these kinds of games, im saying that it doesnt sell them as well as the other two. As evident that the PS2 version of RE4 is still the best selling one. Now if you dont have Capcom or Ubisoft pockets and you are smaller would you release these types of games on Wii U or whatever? No you couldnt, money if finite and it would be insane to put it on a system whose audience doesnt really play those games in droves, so you have to stick with SOny and Ms



Obviously Nintendo doesn't care whether or not 3rd parties like Bethesda and Gearbox make games for their console, because they know their audience only buys their games and no one else's except for the occasional LEGO or Disney game.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

This is sounding disturbingly similar to the Dreamcast.



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oniyide said:
Mnementh said:
oniyide said:
 

it would be comparable had the WIi version not been a budget priced game and the PS2 one full price. Funny how people always forget RE4 Wii was sold cheaply out the gate

It was also a gen late. But maybe. Do you think the three RE-games on Wii sold bad, seeing that they were rail-shooter-spinoffs or very, very late ports? Maybe, but that is again personal opinion on this one and the conclusion may differ from person to person.

dont misunderstand me, im not saying those games sold bad, im just saying that WIi fans love to tout RE4 around like it proves something. Didnt really prove anything. Putting up numbers only tells half the story. yes it came out later, but it was budget priced and it was a launch title. So it took advantage fo being cheap and not having alot of competition. Now would it have sold well if it released 6-12months later at full price? I doubt it.

I'm not saying that a Nintendo console cant sell these kinds of games, im saying that it doesnt sell them as well as the other two. As evident that the PS2 version of RE4 is still the best selling one. Now if you dont have Capcom or Ubisoft pockets and you are smaller would you release these types of games on Wii U or whatever? No you couldnt, money if finite and it would be insane to put it on a system whose audience doesnt really play those games in droves, so you have to stick with SOny and Ms

RE4 was not a Wii launch title, and the fact that it was more than two years late (and a last gen port) more than compensates for the lower price I reckon.



curl-6 said:
oniyide said:
Mnementh said:
oniyide said:
 

it would be comparable had the WIi version not been a budget priced game and the PS2 one full price. Funny how people always forget RE4 Wii was sold cheaply out the gate

It was also a gen late. But maybe. Do you think the three RE-games on Wii sold bad, seeing that they were rail-shooter-spinoffs or very, very late ports? Maybe, but that is again personal opinion on this one and the conclusion may differ from person to person.

dont misunderstand me, im not saying those games sold bad, im just saying that WIi fans love to tout RE4 around like it proves something. Didnt really prove anything. Putting up numbers only tells half the story. yes it came out later, but it was budget priced and it was a launch title. So it took advantage fo being cheap and not having alot of competition. Now would it have sold well if it released 6-12months later at full price? I doubt it.

I'm not saying that a Nintendo console cant sell these kinds of games, im saying that it doesnt sell them as well as the other two. As evident that the PS2 version of RE4 is still the best selling one. Now if you dont have Capcom or Ubisoft pockets and you are smaller would you release these types of games on Wii U or whatever? No you couldnt, money if finite and it would be insane to put it on a system whose audience doesnt really play those games in droves, so you have to stick with SOny and Ms

RE4 was not a Wii launch title, and the fact that it was more than two years late (and a last gen port) more than compensates for the lower price I reckon.

never said it didnt compensate, of course it did. But the PS2 version was later than the GC one(not that late granted) and it was sold at full price. And it wasnt a launch title your right, but was released early enough in the console's life cycle that it really didnt compete with anything else, especially in that genre.



oniyide said:
curl-6 said:

RE4 was not a Wii launch title, and the fact that it was more than two years late (and a last gen port) more than compensates for the lower price I reckon.

never said it didnt compensate, of course it did. But the PS2 version was later than the GC one(not that late granted) and it was sold at full price. And it wasnt a launch title your right, but was released early enough in the console's life cycle that it really didnt compete with anything else, especially in that genre.

PS2 wasn't that much later, just 9 months; Wii was 29 months later.



This is kind of like asking why the Bloods don't support the Crips, or why the Athiets don't support the Theists.

They're completely different, it not outright opposing entities, with very different philosophies. The fact that Bethesda and Gearsbox are major third parties ALONE almost means by default that they won't support Nintendo..



Metallicube said:

This is kind of like asking why the Bloods don't support the Crips, or why the Athiets don't support the Theists.

They're completely different, it not outright opposing entities, with very different philosophies. The fact that Bethesda and Gearsbox are major third parties ALONE almost means by default that they won't support Nintendo..


Square-Enix, Namco-Bandai, Konami aren't treating the machine much better outside a tiny handful of content.

Namco: We'll develop Smash Bros. you but screw actually supporting your machine otherwise.