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Dear Reader,

Everyone knows how to defeat a big evil system, that exploiting humanity. You need:

1) thanks to a lucky chance get a key to The Very Main Computa, and

2) hack it, granting “happiness for everybody, free”.

You don’t need anything else: you don’t need to create fair, social system as opposed to evil and unfair; you don’t need to recruit an army of supporters; you don’t need to educate masses. You simply need to force evil system to philanthropy.

…if you're interested why this way of restoration of universal justice and equality has been imposed on the masses by an advanced movie industry recently – let’s talk about it.

The inspiration behind this text was the movie “Elysium” starring Matt Damon and Jodie Foster, which is running in the movie theaters across the world right  now.

First, synopsis. The middle of the next century. Social stratification has reached near space levels. Eco-friendly resort city in a form of a donut is orbiting the planet. Its residents are mainly busy with two things: 1) partying at the pool, regenerating in the capsules from time to time, 2) shooting down illegal immigrants who are trying to escape cruelly exploited Earth on ramshackle space pods to the space donut.

A simple worker, portrayed by Damon, receives a lethal doze of radiation. He fired, left five days to live. After installing some military gadgets a lone hero captures an exploitator he used to work on, and by lucky chance lays his hands on a key from central computer of sky-high resort city. Again he luckly gets there, and at cost of his own life reprogram the Main Computa, so all the earthlings have become the citizens of the resort city. The End.

…there’s an opinion, Dear Reader, that this kind of screenplay is not an consequence of intellectual laziness of a screenwriter and director. After all Neill Blomkamp, the screenwriter and director of “Elysium”, previously has shot a smart in social aspect “District 9", a movie about aliens living in ghetto on Earth. And he didn’t make it look like system failures could be treated with philantrophy.

But there’s a difference. “District 9” was filmed as and independent movie from South Africa, with a nothing to brag about budget by the standards of Hollywood. While “Elysium” is wholly an Hollywood movie with an Hollywood budget of 115 million dollars.

So when he have got into so called “big Hollywood movie industry”, the author automatically got into its meaning and information field with its set of axioms. So nobody forced author to shot this stupid movie. No. It’s just generally accepted way in Hollywood. It’s accepted that the hero is alone, aka a lone hero. It's accepted that evil exploiting system has a single vulnerable point, where you can pinch it and everything goes well, aka a Death Star.

So the main question here is why this is accepted in Hollywood and not something else.

I have a theory, Dear Reader.

For the most part of its history Hollywood propaganda was fighting an enemy of communist ideology, that presumably posed all the evil in the world. Since the Soviets was another planet – realism wasn’t required. An effective image of Evil Totalitarian System was in place. Well, you remember: it forces all people to wear similar gray outfit, executes people for thoughtcrimes and runs from a single center (Ira Levin was first in 1970 who thought of central supercomputer that runs it all).

This’s a basic antiutopia scenario: a lone hero, symbolizing the free world, reaches the evil totalitarian machine and turns it off – beacause a single free man is stronger that million of slaves or whatever the message. Has worked for decades.

But then the source  of all the evil have ceased to exist, the authors of an “actual myth” reached an impasse, and it doesn’t seem they were able to get out of it even today. Today we have a kind system, that respects freedom, private property, encourages initative, entrepreneurship, and doesn’t force to fear similar outfit anyone. Nevertheless it absolutely inhumane bomb and exploit majority of the earthlings, while minority has become even richer and makes touristic trips  into near space.

In other words the genre of antiutopia fall and stays into ideological crisis. Instead today the over-development of recently advocated by the Holywood authors freedoms has lead to the development of segregation system before our very own eyes. Since the only, not fairy-tale, alternative to it is the form of social solidarity, the chances of it getting any meaningful attention are low, even for a “liberal” Hollywood in quite “socialistic” modern America. As much chances as, say, Hollywod filming a heroic epic about young Afghan boy on revenge mission against yankee occupants, who destroyed his village, or something.

As a result for the last decade or two the genre of social-satirical antiutopia rests in an awkward position. On the one hand, it fearlessly criticizes certain shortcomings of segregation system: police state, an abyss of inequality, illusiveness of social “elevators” and other forms of injustice and inequality – without criticizing an actual system. On the other hand, it’s accepted to consider that system that has Freedom, doesn’t have an alternative. So the only thing the lone hero is allowed to do when he reaches the Main Computa – is to hack it following by free bonuses to the poor. That’s basically what hacker Neo did in “The Matrix Revolutions”, or Timberlake in “In Time”, or Damon in "Elysium". What supposed to be movies about revolts turns out to be movies about philanthropy.

As a result a blatant stupidity. The further we go, the stupidier this mockery of freedom looks like.



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I thought it was way too clumsy with how it handled things. I loved district 9. And the main charcter had much more believable growth.

Was there any reason why the reatomizer was only on Elysium other than to drive the plot to it's socialistic ending?
It seemed like a critique on healthcare but it's not as simple as Elysium makes it out to be. They didn't show people trying to abuse the system. they didn't explain how much it cost to run the machines that heal everyone, or realistic motivations for the people on Elysium, completely not wanting to help people in need.




I know it's Hollywood and they are far from realistic most of the time but i can see a world like this happening as we start to run out of resources and the rich run away and try to create a liveable spaceship/ man made planet. Leaving ordinary people with the mess as always.



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the2real4mafol said:
I know it's Hollywood and they are far from realistic most of the time but i can see a world like this happening as we start to run out of resources and the rich run away and try to create a liveable spaceship/ man made planet. Leaving ordinary people with the mess as always.


It would be much cheaper for your hive consensus called the rich to recover instead a piece of isolated land like New Zealand. Do you know how much it costs to send a kilogram of mass to space and keep it there? And that's with the help of cheap fossil fuel....

Anyways...

It's just another brainless Hollywood movie. Cheap art for the masses with a bit of brainwashing shoved in the middle. If you don't like it and don't want people to watch, just keep trying to point out its allegories - because there are few things people hate more - but in a more concise way.

Edit - and very unoriginal too. I just noticed a great many number of mainstream works,  from Chrono Trigger to Battle Angel Alita have toyed with exactly the same concept of large masses under an unnatainable elite. It's almost like a Jungian archetype - the manifestation of the idea and the irrational fear of unseen rulers and powers.



 

 

 

 

 

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Saw this movie.

What a waist of money.



Three things.....

1. You forgot to post 'spoilers'

2. Theres no intellectual laziness about this film. The only problem with the film is that it wasn't longer, giving us more time to experiences larger parts of the story, which could've branched out in many ways and realized more characters than just Damon, himself.

3. The story holds a fundamental truths about the future if things continue the way they are going:

A) In the next 30 years the US will be taken over by hispanics. They will be the majority in the nation.

B) The disparity between the rich and poor will continue to grow whilst many people will have to work multiple jobs just to make ends meet. This world is over one hundred years later than even that.

C) Medical coverage has to become increasingly socialized on a larger scale to meet the demand of the sick and poor.

D) The rich flee for space (Smart plan). Lets look at what the poor do to the rich in south and central America when they are desperate.

E) Corporations and making deals with governments to ensure stability and power without the the consent of representatives of the people or even the people themselves.

F) Computers become a part of our lives and are now connected to our minds, even in a poor and impovrished world. You act like hackers today don't have issues with governments.

G) Exploitation of the poor by the wealthy: China, India, Taiwan anyone?

If you look at the world today in 100+ years you could see elysium, if the rich continue creating the disparity.



I don't quite see it as lucky chance.

What you have is arcs of various stories coming together.

1. The defense minister on Elysium wanted power.
2. Matt Damon's character was seriously injured at work and decided to do anything possible to survive.

These two arcs combined with two other arcs.

3. The mercenary. Slightly psychotic, he became incensed over what took place.
4. The criminal king-pin.

Elysium wasn't a resort. It was a Utopian society. It was the domain of the rich.
The rich used the poor to build the technology they used to keep the poor in line.



I am so glad that the plot is stupid because of this

 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=145521

Now I can publish it without people thinking its a fanfic , because I've had the idea in a looooooooooooooooooooong time, and its not about Matt Damon and some generic plot about generic evil women.



S.T.A.G.E. said:

3. The story holds a fundamental truths about the future if things continue the way they are going:


Before you pull another Nostradamus on us, consider that Bloomkamp's movies are his visions of present day and present time, and that is the main reason his obnoxious piece of hollywood art is being mostly criticized in here because of its cheap allegories.

Also, if you think this is remotely original or thought-provoking, I'd say you need to move out of your Playstation for a litle while.