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Yes/Nope?

Yes 131 20.06%
 
NO 294 45.02%
 
I want both to do well 206 31.55%
 
I did want it to do better.... 10 1.53%
 
Other ( post below) 11 1.68%
 
Total:652
JoeTheBro on 13 August 2013
spurgeonryan said:
JoeTheBro said:
Yes, I want them both to do amazing!

Vita is really under rated too. Uncharted: Golden Abyss, Wipeout 2048, Gravity Rush, and LBPV are such amazing games that really deserved better reviews and better sales. Heck LBPV is even much better than LBP2 and Wipeout 2048 is also the best in the series.


Like a Doctor of Medicine, I think I see the problem.

 

1.2.3....4?

I know nothing about the Vita, but I do know that these are the only games I know about besides what is out in Japan or that other big game coming out there.

Amazing device yes, but is that it? I am sure a Vita aficionado could list me 50 games that they would recommend, and I could list 50 games that I could recommend on the 3DS. But what are the known games? That people know.

I constantly see, Vita has a ton of great games. I am sure. But as a person from the other side I do not know more than what you have just mentioned.

I am sure that many know about Mario kart 7, Mario 3D, Kid Icarus, Fire EMblem, Animal Crossing, Resident Evil REvelations. I will stop there since that is already 6 games.

Vita needs bigger games, not more games. Wii U needs the same thing. Yakuza just came out for it. It is more games, but does not matter.

3DS pushed out big game after big game after big game and now it can have more games such as the Recent SMT IV and MArio and Luigi. Nothing big , but still good and more reasons to own it.

 

So long tl;DR

Vita does not have enough big games right now.


Those 4 games I listed came out well within the first year. Heck two were launch titles. Comparing first year Vita to first year 3DS makes the Vita lineup look incredible. It's just that not a single game* has released for Vita so far this year. Add in the 3DS's extra year on the market and then it's so apparent why you can list more 3DS games.

However please understand that I only listed four exceptional games. If this was just about what good and well known games the system has, the list would be really different and be a better comparison to the 3DS's list you mentioned.

I really disagree with you about Vita needing bigger games, since it already has them. Uncharted is huge, LBP is huge, COD is huge, Assassin's Creed is huge, and Killzone is huge. Relatively of course. What Vita needs is a cheaper price and marketing.

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DialgaMarine on 13 August 2013
NintendoSupporter<3 said:
I beleive the Vita deserves more, but not out succeed the 3DS. Ahd to be honest too, I would probably find a little joy if the PS4 failed.

 That's a really strange statement. Sony has put a lot of time and effort a very high quality pro consumer product with the PS4 and designed it to cater towards gamers and developers alike. Are you just saying that because you're a Ninty fan and don't like the fact that it'll probably dominate the Wii-U in sales, por do you have a legitimate complaint about the system?

I don't believe the Vita should do better, but it deserves to at least come somewhat close. It's a great platform, and deserves all the support it can get. 



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oni-link on 13 August 2013

To those saying that there is a HUGE dispcrepancy in visuals between 3DS and PSV you are dreaming!!! If you look at what the best 3DS has to offer against what PSV has put so far it's not THAT big to matter on a handheld. Ask an average joe to compare SSFF:IV 3D, RE:Revelations, Kid Icarus, DKCR, Luigi's Mansion to Uncharted Golden Abyss, and Gravity Rush and they would say the diffrence doesn't matter.



kupomogli on 13 August 2013
RolStoppable said:

Right, but that's a minority opinion and has to be accepted as such. Some people liking the Xbox more than the PS2 didn't suddenly make the PS2's sales undeserved.

And I'm not speaking about the current 3DS library which I still believe is overall worse than the Vita's library when it comes to quality.  What magnificent games other than ports and remakes did the 3DS have when it launched all the way up to its price drop.  Hell.  I'll give you all the way up to where the system started to get, debatably, good games?  So up to Super Mario 3D Land.

In the same period of time that Nintendo had the price drop for the 3DS, the Vita had games like Uncharted Golden Abyyss, Unit 13, Wipeout 2048, and Gravity Rush, but yeah, those games are clearly deserving of 30,000 a week while the garbage that launched with the 3DS is totally worth 90,000 a week.

We all know most Nintendo fans buy Nintendo hardware regardless of the current quality of software. 



oni-link on 13 August 2013
RolStoppable said:
kupomogli said:
RolStoppable said:

Right, but that's a minority opinion and has to be accepted as such. Some people liking the Xbox more than the PS2 didn't suddenly make the PS2's sales undeserved.

And I'm not speaking about the current 3DS library which I still believe is overall worse than the Vita's library when it comes to quality.  What magnificent games other than ports and remakes did the 3DS have when it launched all the way up to its price drop.  Hell.  I'll give you all the way up to where the system started to get, debatably, good games?  So up to Super Mario 3D Land.

In the same period of time that Nintendo had the price drop for the 3DS, the Vita had games like Uncharted Golden Abyyss, Unit 13, Wipeout 2048, and Gravity Rush, but yeah, those games are clearly deserving of 30,000 a week while the garbage that launched with the 3DS is totally worth 90,000 a week.

We all know most Nintendo fans buy Nintendo hardware regardless of the current quality of software. 

There's no reason for me to give you any list of games, because I know that you think Nintendo's first party is greatly overrated. It's a dead end for this discussion.

Perhaps people were more willing to buy into the 3DS, because they could trust Nintendo to be committed to the platform, based on a long history in the handheld market. On the other hand, the PSP got more or less abandoned by everyone in the West after a few years. On top of that, the 3DS is backwards compatible while the PSV isn't. Not to mention that the 3DS wasn't as much of a rip-off as the PSV.

As for your last statement, the Wii U hits you like a brick in the face.


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RazorDragon on 13 August 2013
jake_the_fake1 said:
curl-6 said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
curl-6 said:

jake_the_fake1 said:

  Nintendo is taking it's loyal fans for a ride.

So giving its fans what the want is taking them for a ride now?


So it's fans wanted an underpowered handwith with a low resultion and low DPI screen, with a gimmick which steals about 50% of the GPUs power to generate a 3D effect which if not used is wasted, is this what the fans actually wanted?

They didn't necessarily want an expensive portable home console either.


no your right, they just wanted an expensive leapfrog.

Sarcasm aside, the PSvita and 3DS launched at the same price, someone who bought a 3DS at launch can not then turn around and say the PSvita is expensive, because if the PSvita is expensive for all that it is, then what does that make the launch 3DS, a rip off?

Also you make it seem that having a portable home console is a bad thing, as if no one would want to play home console games on the go, and yet the 3DS and WiiU share almost identical first party library. So is this a bad thing? hell no, there is nothing wrong with having portable versions of home console games. There are gamers who predominantly game on home console and a little on handhelds, and there are others who game predominantly on handhelds and a little on home consoles, so having similar games on both benifits both type of gamers, it's a win-win for all. But if you think otherwise, I suppose that is your prerogative.


Funny that you mention 3DS's price was a rip off at launch when compared to Vita, except you're ignoring the release dates of each console and instead making it seem that both the 3DS and Vita released at the same time. 3DS launched at february 2011, similar date of release to the original Galaxy SII, which was the top-end hardware at the time. Let's compare the hardware: both have dual-core CPUs, similar main screen resolution(800x240 3DS vs 800x480 Galaxy SII), with 3DS's GPU actually producing better looking games than any competitor's hardware at the time, it also had 3D on the screen. Just like Vita did at the beggining of 2012, except at, at this time, we already had quad-core smartphones on the market(LG Optimus HD 4x) and better GPUs at the market. Both were high-end(or almost) hardware at their respective time frames. If you ignore release dates, though, I can see why someone would call 3DS's launch price a rip-off. Except that it actually wasn't, and the price-drop Nintendo did was at the right time, since by July smartphones were already more powerful and cheaper than a 3DS.



outlawauron on 13 August 2013
RolStoppable said:
outlawauron said:

Exactly, but that doesn't mean the competition does have a compelling offering or in cases of certain fans, a better offering (Halo for Xbox, and the Mario/Nintendo offerings for Gamecube).

Right, but that's a minority opinion and has to be accepted as such. Some people liking the Xbox more than the PS2 didn't suddenly make the PS2's sales undeserved.

and where did I imply that?



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S.T.A.G.E. on 13 August 2013
curl-6 said:

jake_the_fake1 said:

 Nintendo is taking it's loyal fans for a ride.

So giving its fans what the want is taking them for a ride now?


Depends on which posititon the consumer likes best. Theres reverse cowgirl, theres missionary.....I could go on and on. :)



CavemanCavan on 13 August 2013

I'd like it to sell about 2 to every three 3ds. That's a 40% market share and something to be proud of. Nintendo knows it'd handheld market, coming close to that it a pretty lofty goal.

PSP did well enough sharing with the DS. Beating that number should be sonys goal.

So ....personal best.



Soundwave on 13 August 2013

There's no handheld market for the Vita.

Who is this thing supposed to appeal to? By the time kids hit 14-15 they're a lost cause because smartphones are the hub of their social life (screw just video games, lol). Adults? No way.

Kids? That's Nintendo's territory, they have too many family friendly IP for Sony to compete and lower priced hardware that parents prefer. Not to mention Pokemon. The big gun IP that sell Sony's console franchises like Call of Duty and Battlefield and BioShock just aren't the types of games people want to play on the go, if that's the type of game you like, you want to play it on a big screen.

Japan is Vita's best bet to carve out some kind of viable no.2 position behind the 3DS.