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Emulators aren't illegal and neither should flashcarts be illegal. Anyone who wants to question whether emulation software is illegal or not I present to you Bleem vs Sony. In which bleem won in all cases including using the Playstation logo. Essentially setting a legal standard. Bleem! was a commercial emulator on top of that. The company should be forced to remove the illegal software though.



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errorpwns said:

Emulators aren't illegal and neither should flashcarts be illegal. Anyone who wants to question whether emulation software is illegal or not I present to you Bleem vs Sony. In which bleem won in all cases including using the Playstation logo. Essentially setting a legal standard. Bleem! was a commercial emulator on top of that. The company should be forced to remove the illegal software though.


The difference with this flashcard is though, that it can only, I repeat only be used to play pirated games. The card can´t be used to run homebrew or to bypass the region locking. It´s only purpose is to play illegally downloaded Roms !





orniletter said:
errorpwns said:

Emulators aren't illegal and neither should flashcarts be illegal. Anyone who wants to question whether emulation software is illegal or not I present to you Bleem vs Sony. In which bleem won in all cases including using the Playstation logo. Essentially setting a legal standard. Bleem! was a commercial emulator on top of that. The company should be forced to remove the illegal software though.


The difference with this flashcard is though, that it can only, I repeat only be used to play pirated games. The card can´t be used to run homebrew or to bypass the region locking. It´s only purpose is to play illegally downloaded Roms !

No it isn't. The card will be allowed to run homebrew in the future. 



errorpwns said:
orniletter said:
errorpwns said:

Emulators aren't illegal and neither should flashcarts be illegal. Anyone who wants to question whether emulation software is illegal or not I present to you Bleem vs Sony. In which bleem won in all cases including using the Playstation logo. Essentially setting a legal standard. Bleem! was a commercial emulator on top of that. The company should be forced to remove the illegal software though.


The difference with this flashcard is though, that it can only, I repeat only be used to play pirated games. The card can´t be used to run homebrew or to bypass the region locking. It´s only purpose is to play illegally downloaded Roms !

No it isn't. The card will be allowed to run homebrew in the future. 

If it even gets to work on future firmwares... they're having trouble with that. Apparently nothing beyond 6.2 will be compatible..



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ishiki said:

If they didn't violate nintendo's patents (they very well could have), nintendo can't and shouldn't be able stop that device from being made. I'm not sure how the laws work though if they're marketing for hacking Nintendo 3DS.


I wasn´t talking about it from the legal/illegal angle, what I meant was  that there really is no justification for this card because it will only be able to play (ilegally) downloaded Roms in the near future....and let´s be honest, how big is the percentage of people that used the Flashcards to fiddle around with homebrew and didn´t just dump a gigabyte of DS and SNES ROMs on the card....2%....5% ?



im suing everyone whom ever talked to me....i just have to count them first lol



orniletter said:
ishiki said:
 

If they didn't violate nintendo's patents (they very well could have), nintendo can't and shouldn't be able stop that device from being made. I'm not sure how the laws work though if they're marketing for hacking Nintendo 3DS.


I wasn´t talking about it from the legal/illegal angle, what I meant was  that there really is no justification for this card because it will only be able to play (ilegally) downloaded Roms in the near future....and let´s be honest, how big is the percentage of people that used the Flashcards to fiddle around with homebrew and didn´t just dump a gigabyte of DS and SNES ROMs on the card....2%....5% ?


It apparently plays DS hombrew actually. And I have a flash cart and I use it to play homebrew. There are some fun homebrew apps for the DS actually.



orniletter said:
ishiki said:
 

If they didn't violate nintendo's patents (they very well could have), nintendo can't and shouldn't be able stop that device from being made. I'm not sure how the laws work though if they're marketing for hacking Nintendo 3DS.


I wasn´t talking about it from the legal/illegal angle, what I meant was  that there really is no justification for this card because it will only be able to play (ilegally) downloaded Roms in the near future....and let´s be honest, how big is the percentage of people that used the Flashcards to fiddle around with homebrew and didn´t just dump a gigabyte of DS and SNES ROMs on the card....2%....5% ?

Yes I agree there is little justification, and I agree with your assumptions. And I'm fine with people getting prosecuted for pirating.

I don't agree with  blocking these types of things provided it doesn't violate any patents, because the device itself would not be illegal. Just the people doing illegal things. IE banning filesharing would cause all kinds of problems even though it also is used heavily for sharing illegal copyrighted files. I don't believe that things should be outlawed because you "can" do illegal things with it, regardless of ratio of people doing these things.



errorpwns said:


It apparently plays DS hombrew actually. And I have a flash cart and I use it to play homebrew. There are some fun homebrew apps for the DS actually.


I agree with you that homebrew apps can be fun but people like you who only use their cards for those apps (I hope) are in the minority: How many people do you know that just outright stopped buying DS games alltogether ? I can name 5 friends who had a DS and after they got their Flashcards, it was always " I just want to try it out first"" This doesn´t seem worth it" etc. excuse after excuse to justify their piray....so again: Homebrew itself is nice and dandy, but those Flashcards always open Pandora´s Box by allowing piracy sooner or later and the people who only use said Homebrew apps are in the small minority !