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curl-6 said:
"The Cloud" is the new "teh C3LL"


nah that is RAM lol  RAM is suddenly the most amazing thing ever for consoles with all the recent talk lol  Oddly most people who argue about hardware specs doesn't know much about the hardware in the first place.




       

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DirtyP2002 said:

The cloud used to be the future when forum-users thought Sony would have the upper hand on it, because they paid 400 million USD for Gaikai.

Now that they realise that the IT-infrastructure and cloud computing technologies MS offer are vastly superior than anything Gaikai could have ever been, it is just a fad / PR talk or something these users try to make fun of.

The reality is oh so different. The fact that Nvidia, the ones making money from selling you expensive GPUs, try to use the cloud for their products gives you an idea how important this will become. Maybe not in the next 2-3 years, but the foundation will be made for decades to come.

This is like online multiplayer on consoles. At first there were only a handful of games supporting XBL (or Dreamarena... but yeah... XBL) Heck, EA even blocked it. Now it is an essential part of gaming and the game they sell. Same thing will happen with cloud computing for games. Yeah, not everyone will be ready from the start, but not everyone was ready when XBL required broadband in 2002 either.

I believe the key is that we are seeing more MP only games coming down the pipe.  More MMO type games that require always online connected to some server.  Probably in the next 2 years this will as common as MP in a game.  People probably will not even know how many cloud computing services are running in the background of their favorite game because it will be just like any other service, in the background.  

People look at today and say our system is not ready, well what makes it ready is money.  As the net has become so integrated in just about every device we have (Ghost in the Shell hacking here we come), so will the infrastructure because a main point of interest form governments and other companies like Google.  Its like the US during the gold rush time.  



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The Fury said:
I think currently it is too dependent on a connection. If developers make the game to use The Cloud and then for whatever reason it cannot be connected to, what happens to the game? Is it unplayable? If it's a single player game... well.

Theory is good, I can see the potential but for now it's best kept as 'storage', I feel, unless it's used for online part of a game, obviously you need to be online for it anyway.


People make this argument all the time but what is the difference between this an a MMO.  People that play multiplayer for the majority of their gaming falls under this as well.  The thing is that these outages are more rare now the your lights going out and I have had my lights go out more than I have experience an internet outage just this year alone.  If more games depend on the net then it means companies will be expected to keep things running smoothly just like your electricty.

MP only type of games have been in the market and going strong for a while now so going all online is only the next step.  We already see a lot of MP only games coming to the X1 and PS4 and I expect to see more as time move on.  Because of this change, I see cloud computing adoption going a lot faster than I expected.  Maybe in 2 years we will see a lot of games using it for all types of purposes.



Maybe after the NBN rolls out in the entire nation in 3 years time. The internet in this nation is currently a joke. I have 100mbps but it's ridiculously inconsistent. Congestion in the afternoon has it drop to as little as 10mbps.



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Machiavellian said:

People make this argument all the time but what is the difference between this an a MMO.  People that play multiplayer for the majority of their gaming falls under this as well.  The thing is that these outages are more rare now the your lights going out and I have had my lights go out more than I have experience an internet outage just this year alone.  If more games depend on the net then it means companies will be expected to keep things running smoothly just like your electricty.

MP only type of games have been in the market and going strong for a while now so going all online is only the next step.  We already see a lot of MP only games coming to the X1 and PS4 and I expect to see more as time move on.  Because of this change, I see cloud computing adoption going a lot faster than I expected.  Maybe in 2 years we will see a lot of games using it for all types of purposes.

You know, I've jsut spent about 3 minutes trying to come up with a good reply, you are right. I don't disagree with you, however I still think dependency on anything is bad. You might not have a big outage but every now and then my internet just fails or my router needs a reboot. If a game is dependent on the Cloud, will the game stop working until I connect again? Even if it's a single player game? Cloud enhancement/gaming should be restricted to MMO and online portions of games only, due to the fact you need a connection to play anyway.



Hmm, pie.

I don't think that I personally will benefit from cloud computing. I do not like online gaming as I prefer the singleplayer experience. The cloud save is a nice feature but I could live without it.





Yeah, sure, because those companies still don't know enough about me. They need to log every single button I press. Always on, always connected. No, thanks. It may be the future, that I don't know, but I know for sure that I won't participate. I don't want to pay every month for countless services, I don't want to not be able to play when my connection goes down. I want to buy some hardware and that's it. If I want to buy a game, I want to buy a game and not the permission to play something for a limited amount if time or something.

As for the cloud helping local hardware. How is that supposed to work? Even if they reduce the lag by some miracle, who is gonna pay for all those super-computers that need to be running? In the end, you will need the same processing power, the computers are just located somewhere else (that way, companies also get to check your data way more easy, oh, how convenient!). In my eyes, it's better if I have the hardware myself. That way I can do just what I want with it. And it won't happen that I want to play a game and the console tells me "You're number 9.755 in the queue" or something like that.

So, the cloud may be the future, but without me. If one day there is no other option, I will just be a retro gamer. There are more games already available than I could ever play in my life so I'm good. But people also told optical discs would disappear for years, they said PC gaming is dead, they said Nintendo is dead, they said Apple is dead and whatnot. Well, guess what, they're all still around. The cloud will be an option, but it won't ever replace local hardware. Sure, Microsoft spent a hell lot of money on that stuff. Like they did with surface and Windows Phone. Just because you throw money at something doesn't mean it's gonna be the next big thing.

Oh yeah, and with data caps coming to germany (reach 75 GB and your connection goes to shit) I don't see a very bright future for that stuff around here.



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OdinHades said:
Yeah, sure, because those companies still don't know enough about me. They need to log every single button I press. Always on, always connected. No, thanks. It may be the future, that I don't know, but I know for sure that I won't participate. I don't want to pay every month for countless services, I don't want to not be able to play when my connection goes down. I want to buy some hardware and that's it. If I want to buy a game, I want to buy a game and not the permission to play something for a limited amount if time or something.

As for the cloud helping local hardware. How is that supposed to work? Even if they reduce the lag by some miracle, who is gonna pay for all those super-computers that need to be running? In the end, you will need the same processing power, the computers are just located somewhere else (that way, companies also get to check your data way more easy, oh, how convenient!). In my eyes, it's better if I have the hardware myself. That way I can do just what I want with it. And it won't happen that I want to play a game and the console tells me "You're number 9.755 in the queue" or something like that.

So, the cloud may be the future, but without me. If one day there is no other option, I will just be a retro gamer. There are more games already available than I could ever play in my life so I'm good. But people also told optical discs would disappear for years, they said PC gaming is dead, they said Nintendo is dead, they said Apple is dead and whatnot. Well, guess what, they're all still around. The cloud will be an option, but it won't ever replace local hardware. Sure, Microsoft spent a hell lot of money on that stuff. Like they did with surface and Windows Phone. Just because you throw money at something doesn't mean it's gonna be the next big thing.

Oh yeah, and with data caps coming to germany (reach 75 GB and your connection goes to shit) I don't see a very bright future for that stuff around here.

Come in France, we have unlimited internet forever for 29.99€ =p