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Kantor on 29 July 2013
Adinnieken said:
Kantor said:
Leaking details of an upcoming console is sufficient to have police raid your hard drive now?

No, that wasn't what did it.  He apparently was also hacking into several game studios.  Epic being one of them and Blizzard another.  He claimed he also hacked into Microsoft, but after Microsoft security personnel spoke to him they determined he didn't.

Microsoft has denied they're responsible, and whilst Microsoft personally paid him a visit as well and recovered their property (the devkit) they determined he didn't do anything illegal with regards to Microsoft.  That doesn't mean anything regarding any other company.

And for the record, leaking corporate information is a civil issue, not a criminal one.  Therefore, whatever he did is being investigated as a crime, therefore likely has nothing to do with the Durango Leaks.

But if they're at the stage where they're seizing his disks, shouldn't they have formally charged him with something? That's certainly not mentioned in the article; maybe it's just a really poorly written article.



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Adinnieken on 29 July 2013
Kantor said:
Adinnieken said:
Kantor said:
Leaking details of an upcoming console is sufficient to have police raid your hard drive now?

No, that wasn't what did it.  He apparently was also hacking into several game studios.  Epic being one of them and Blizzard another.  He claimed he also hacked into Microsoft, but after Microsoft security personnel spoke to him they determined he didn't.

Microsoft has denied they're responsible, and whilst Microsoft personally paid him a visit as well and recovered their property (the devkit) they determined he didn't do anything illegal with regards to Microsoft.  That doesn't mean anything regarding any other company.

And for the record, leaking corporate information is a civil issue, not a criminal one.  Therefore, whatever he did is being investigated as a crime, therefore likely has nothing to do with the Durango Leaks.

But if they're at the stage where they're seizing his disks, shouldn't they have formally charged him with something? That's certainly not mentioned in the article; maybe it's just a really poorly written article.

I believe that happened a long time ago, before the Xbox One reveal, but I may not be correct.  Also, it's Australia, I have no idea how things work there.



Soleron on 29 July 2013
Adinnieken said:
Kantor said:
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And for the record, leaking corporate information is a civil issue, not a criminal one.  Therefore, whatever he did is being investigated as a crime, therefore likely has nothing to do with the Durango Leaks.

Having unauthorised access to a computer system (where "unauthorised" is left extremely vague) is a criminal offence in Australia.



Adinnieken on 29 July 2013
Soleron said:
Adinnieken said:
Kantor said:
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And for the record, leaking corporate information is a civil issue, not a criminal one.  Therefore, whatever he did is being investigated as a crime, therefore likely has nothing to do with the Durango Leaks.

Having unauthorised access to a computer system (where "unauthorised" is left extremely vague) is a criminal offence in Australia.

Does having access to a devkit through fraud constitute unauthorized access?  I can sort of see it but on the other  hand, no.  And there wouldn't seem to be a need to confiscate his computer to investigate it.  Again, Microsoft indicated that they never contacted the authorities.  Everything they did was internal or through a third-party investigator.  There's been no word from either Activision-Blizzard or Epic as to whether or not they've contacted the authorities. 

So this has to be from one of his hacking attempts.



Soleron on 29 July 2013
Adinnieken said:

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Does having access to a devkit through fraud constitute unauthorized access?  I can sort of see it but on the other  hand, no.  And there wouldn't seem to be a need to confiscate his computer to investigate it.  Again, Microsoft indicated that they never contacted the authorities.  Everything they did was internal or through a third-party investigator.  There's been no word from either Activision-Blizzard or Epic as to whether or not they've contacted the authorities. 

So this has to be from one of his hacking attempts.

I have no idea but I imagine the law is vague enough so that they can whack anyone the tech companies want with criminal charges.

Yeah, I imagine it's the hacking attempts though.



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endimion on 30 July 2013

I love people saying hire a hacker
or
it should be easy to hack....

first when you see how much it cost for a little noob geek per hour to work on grandma's malware infected 10 years old laptop... I doubt if the police doesn't already have a computer science department that they have anywhere close to the budget to hire a high level security hacker...

and even if they did have that budget, if the guy is not a complete moron his level of encryption should be so high that even if it could be remotely possible to hack the encryption, the time and resources needed would be enough to dissuade anyone to even attempt the task